Pern movie - NEWS thread

[Aurelia]

:bouncy: More movie quotes!

http://toddmccaffrey.org/todd/?page_id=707

ANNE MCCAFFREY’S BESTSELLING SCIENCE FICTION-FANTASY SERIES “THE DRAGONRIDERS OF PERN” OPTIONED BY OSCAR®-WINNING CANADIAN FILM PRODUCTION COMPANY COPPERHEART ENTERTAINMENT

Anne McCaffrey’s Dragonriders of Pern novels have been optioned by Steve Hoban of Copperheart Entertainment.

“I decided that Pern had to be done right and I wouldn’t let it go to someone unless I was certain that they were committed to excellence,” says Anne McCaffrey. “Steve brings not only his proven talent but his very great enthusiasm to the endeavor. I’m thrilled to be working with an Academy Award® winning Producer. Pern is in excellent hands!”

“Bringing the Dragonriders of Pern saga to the big screen has been a dream of mine ever since I first read the books and, like millions of other people around the world, fell in love with them,” says Copperheart’s Steve Hoban. “‘Lord of the Rings’, ‘Harry Potter’ and the ‘Chronicles of Narnia’ have all been adapted with enormous success and the Pern series is in the same league. Anne is a master storyteller who has created a captivating mix of action, adventure, mystery, romance, and intrigue – not to mention intelligent, telepathic dragons linked to their human riders in a mystical bond – that will appeal to the movie-going public around the globe.”

Anne McCaffrey is the award-winning author of the Dragonriders of Pern series. She is the recipient of the SFWA Grandmaster Nebula, the American Library Association’s Lifetime Literary Achievement, and is one of the 2006 inductees into the Science Fiction Hall of Fame. She has been writing for over fifty years, her Dragonriders of Pern series has won the hearts of millions, becoming an established classic in the field. You can visit her on the web at: http://www.annemccaffrey.net

Copperheart Entertainment is a Toronto-based production company established by Steve Hoban to produce live-action, large format and animation films. Hoban is one of Canada’s most successful independent producers having produced a diverse body of work including the 2005 Oscar® winning animated short, ‘Ryan’; the Imax®3D film, ‘Cyberworld’; and the popular ‘Ginger Snaps’ feature films. He is currently in post-production on the remake of the 70s horror classic ‘Black Christmas’. You can visit Copperheart on the web at: http://www.copperheart.ca

[Bronze-Dragonrider]

:erm: That says essentially the same thing as everything else, just more wordy with an interview, no more new stuff :(

But I assume this thread will be used for all the news articles people find, rather than posting a new thread with every new snippet?

[Bamy]

At least we now know that the producer is a fan and that anne IS working with them to make the film(?s)....that is always a good thing :yes:

[Bamy]

But it is not a BIG news update...in that I agree with bronzie.

[Lady Cin]

Might not me major news yet...but it's good to have a thread to put ALL the snippets of news we manage to find in.

One comment I'd like to make...

I find it hopeful that the Producer of the proposed film is a Pern fan. As the man who controls the money, he might not be so harsh as a non-fan would be. As a fan, he knows that making the dragons look right, will not be a cheap operation. Moreover, because he is a fan, he'll be pushing for some of the same things that WE want. I just hope that he knows how to finess funds out of scroogish investors...the more money he manages to finagle those investors out of, the better the movie is likely to be.

[Bamy]

Interesting exerpt from Todd's website:

16) If you could be anywhere right now, where would you be? Okay, we’ll just take all the XXX answers as given and move on to the interesting stuff, shall we? I’d love to be on the set of “Dragonflight”, just about ready to wrap the film and go into post-production.

[Ian]

At least we now know that the producer is a fan and that anne IS working with them to make the film(?s)....that is always a good thing :yes:

She told us that much at D*C last year, though wasn't able to reveal names at that point. She also said that she's been promised a cameo in it.

[Bronze-Dragonrider]

:woohoo:

[Bamy]

Sweet!

[Dragongirl]

O wonderful!!! I cant wait till they bring it out!!:hic:

[Ryuu]

She told us that much at D*C last year, though wasn't able to reveal names at that point. She also said that she's been promised a cameo in it.Heh! Heh!

Wouldn't it be a hoot if she gets to be one of the auties in Half-Circle? :rofl2:

Although, it certainly would be better if they got to do several films :yes:

I always enjoy Stan Lee's cameos the Marvel films, and he's appeared in most all of them :ok:

[Milo]

Is anybody subscribed to IMDB pro?

http://imdb.com/title/tt0808236/

[Kestrel]

A Canadian film production company? Huh. I've never heard of any of the movies they have done.

[Nenwen]

Is anybody subscribed to IMDB pro?

http://imdb.com/title/tt0808236/

Not me. But if we wait impatiently, they will eventually put it in the freebie section.

[Brenda]

Or, someone like me will sign up for the 14-day free trial just long enough to copy down all the info!

This is what I saw:

IN DEVELOPMENT

Status: Optioned Property

Production Co: Copper Heart Entertainment more »

Genre: Sci-Fi / more »

Plot Summary: Colonists on a distant planet fleeing memories of a vicious war and overcrowding settle on an Earth-like planet. A decade later the planet is attacked and the settlers must defend themselves while dealing with dwindling resources and natural disasters. Their answer is to genetically engineer "dragons" to replace their worn and broken flying machines.


Source Material: Novel

Writers: Anne McCaffrey Novel

Producers: Steven Hoban ... executive producer

Production Companies: Copper Heart Entertainment


This status was last updated on 23 May 2006.
Since this project is categorized as being in development, the data is subject to change or could be removed completely.


Links: http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=14701

(I went to that link and got another link...)
The Hollywood Reporter (http://login.vnuemedia.com/hr/login/login_subscribe.jsp?id=C8HCk5s9PR1QhA48m4grXea8os82QwCl3z4y2NFgELk3Kei z9ZKshnvusTLgSfozbmAJ243P2GdT%0AVHUcTs%2FnFWyu615Nb62brT%2B4Mgl%2Bf%2B uFwqwc5mh9qA9nDUSR2cJ5%2F6ZEq%2FE9ZkcFDk1UqTw7QlVD%0A%2BujG8o2AoPWFwho DiMV%2BHfaBy%2Bps85mHMFEITXw73p4q1mP0gj8B4Usks5mJM3RXTZ6Q6sPatDTy%0ATY %2Byi21GpwdVVzx4fBzZeHyULemeddOKpVLnBXCLk2EqdPGF1w%3D%3D) (I couldn't read this, does anyone have a subscription or do I have to go through another Rigmarole?)



SO, some big news - it appears to be relatively settled that the movie will be based on Dragonsdawn! I can understand this, as it would be extremely hard to explain the whole setup of Pern and dragons and Thread and holders in just an opening sequence.

[Kath]

:woohoo:

1st pass! Yay!

[Ryuu]

Not me. But if we wait impatiently, they will eventually put it in the freebie section.:laugh: Yeah! AFTER the movie's out :giggle:

[Ryuu]

Plot Summary: Colonists on a distant planet fleeing memories of a vicious war and overcrowding settle on an Earth-like planet. A decade later the planet is attacked and the settlers must defend themselves while dealing with dwindling resources and natural disasters. Their answer is to genetically engineer "dragons" to replace their worn and broken flying machines.

SO, some big news - it appears to be relatively settled that the movie will be based on Dragonsdawn! I can understand this, as it would be extremely hard to explain the whole setup of Pern and dragons and Thread and holders in just an opening sequence.And they can use that movie for opening sequences for subsequent films :yes:

[C_ris]

:woohoo:

1st pass! Yay!

*joins in the :woohoo:ing*

[Bronze-Dragonrider]

WOOT!!! I never thought they'd actually go for a chronological sequence! Hoping, but it seemed like they were leaning towards DF first. This is EXCELLENT news! We may hear Sean's famous last line after all! :heartbeat

Thankyouthankyouthankyou!

[Nenwen]

:woohoo:
:hapdance:

[Milo]

:cool:

[GR'ass]

:woohoo:

[Bamy]

:woohoo:

[Brenda]

I can't believe I didn't think to do that before - and I can't believe no one else did it!

[Bronze-Dragonrider]

I tried, but it needed a credit card to go through with it :roll:

[Brenda]

Oh, that's right - I had to give mine, and then after I got what I was looking for I canceled!

[Ryuu]

Okay, I'm still looking forward to Eragon, scheduled to hit the theaters mid-December, but....








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[Andaren]

Okay, I'm still looking forward to Eragon, scheduled to hit the theaters mid-December, but....








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I actually got all excited when I saw the trailer cos I thought it was a Pern film at first :(

[Lady Arwyn]

Okay, I'm still looking forward to Eragon, scheduled to hit the theaters mid-December, but....








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111 *** Eleventy!!!!!!!!!!!

[lessalynn]

I actually got all excited when I saw the trailer cos I thought it was a Pern film at first :(

My husband told me he thought he seen a trailer for a McCaffrey movie. I was frothing and drooling, yeah it was Eragon movie. My hopes dashed upon the rocks. Dare I hope for a Dragonsdawn movie?

[Nenwen]

Yes. Dare, dare. :drool:

[Aurelia]

Not really a big update, but, per Anne's site:

My Pern film is moving along, carefully but smoothly under the wise guidance of Copperheart Entertainment.

[Brenda]

Well, it sometimes takes a while for things to get up on her site... and it's "moving along", which is more than we had been sure of!

[Bronze-Dragonrider]

:woohoo: Which indicates she's involved or at least informed, which is very good!

[Lady Arwyn]

It's probably still in the script writing phase. Now that their last movie is released they can focus on the Pern project. Hurray!

[Ryuu]

It's probably still in the script writing phase. Now that their last movie is released they can focus on the Pern project. Hurray!hmmm... this reminds me....

Over at PF, MasterTek (http://forum.pernesefriends.com/showpost.php?p=36203&postcount=25) said that Ron Moore was a likely pick to be the director.

For those who know about the previous attempt, he was also the director of the WB attempt and prevented the Pern movie from becoming a Xena/BtVS clone--but the cancellation occured just days from principle shoot, which means the WB had to have a complete script already made.

But if Copper Heart manages to get Ron as the director, what--if any--conflicts might there arrise if they happen to write a similar script? :blink: How much of the rights of the WB script remain with WB or was Anne able to have any claim on THAT material when she got her rights back?

[Bamy]

If, like it is suggeted elsewhere they are doing Dragonsdawn. script will have to be written from scratch.

[Bronze-Dragonrider]

Yep, the TV show was supposed to be 9th Pass, and if the plot outline from IMDB is accurate, as Bamy said, will be Dragonsdawn. No chance of script overlapping. And besides, a TV show script is MUCH different than a movie script. But even if it was to be D'flight, they're both going from the same book, so it shouldn't matter! ;)

Just get it as close to the book as is realistically possible, dammit! :shakefist

[Nenwen]

Does anyone have any contact info for Copperheart Entertainment?

[Bronze-Dragonrider]

It shows it right on their front page http://www.copperheart.ca/

[Nenwen]

It shows it right on their front page http://www.copperheart.ca/

Thanks...happened to find it right after I posted my question. :blush:

[Jr'dan]

I just stumbled across this and I have not read all the posts....so...does anyone have a date that this movie might be coming out? And in which country? Man, if they don't open it in the U.S. I think I will have to save money for a ticket. How depressing!
But a movie of my favorite books! Let there be much rejoicing! :hopping:

[Ryuu]

2008 is the closest they've sited, but I'd trust this to be summerish. Most likely it'll be a world-wide release.

[Bronze-Dragonrider]

2008 is sketchy, it'll undoubtedly be changed. They're probably still in the scripting phase, so I wouldn't expect it any sooner than summer 2009 at best.

[McClance]

Yep, the TV show was supposed to be 9th Pass, and if the plot outline from IMDB is accurate, as Bamy said, will be Dragonsdawn. No chance of script overlapping. And besides, a TV show script is MUCH different than a movie script. But even if it was to be D'flight, they're both going from the same book, so it shouldn't matter! ;)

Just get it as close to the book as is realistically possible, dammit! :shakefist

Where on IMDB does there mention a plot outline? Is that one of things that requires a person to register with them?

[Bronze-Dragonrider]

Yep, though you can go for a 14-day free trial. Check post #15 for info on the outline.

[maiken]

I would like to thank Brenda profusely for providing us with the info from IMDB-pro. My mum wouldn't let me do the free trial, and I was saved from doing it behind her back by Brenda's post. :applause:

*looks over shoulder to make sure mum wasn't reading post*

[McClance]

I would like to thank Brenda profusely for providing us with the info from IMDB-pro. My mum wouldn't let me do the free trial, and I was saved from doing it behind her back by Brenda's post. :applause:

*looks over shoulder to make sure mum wasn't reading post*


I would like to add my great thanks.

Great many thanks, Brenda! :)

[Brenda]

I'll do it again in a few months to see if there's been an update!

[Jr'dan]

2008 is the closest they've sited, but I'd trust this to be summerish. Most likely it'll be a world-wide release.

Argh! I have so little patience! How will I wait this long!
Thanks for the info!

[DragonShadow]

:heart: :birthday: :wine: yess! Pern Movie *does a jig*

[Bamy]

I'll do it again in a few months to see if there's been an update!
:woohoo: :glomp:

[Bamy]

I'll do it again in a few months to see if there's been an update!When you do could you possibly see what they say about Temeraire too? :puppyeyes

[Lady Arwyn]

Temeraire (by any name I could think of) is not on the IMdB Pro list. It's pretty much as if it doesn't exist. :shrug:

[Bamy]

It is on IMDB (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0862850/) though :confused:

[ElfinFriend]

Still being a newbie to the site I had just one question. As much as we all love PERN and its dragons is anyone else as worried as I am about what they will do with it? I know our beloved Anne is involved but will it really live up to what we have each imagined as we read the stories.... (I hope and pray it will I would hate to have been all psyched up to see it come to life only to be disappointed by the film version.)

[Ryuu]

Many of us are, especially after the job done on Eragon--it was okay as a standalone movie, but many were really pissed that it deviated so much from the book. We KNOW the technology exists to bring the dragons to life AND get them the way that Anne described them. We also know that, no matter which book is used for the film, something is going to get cut out/changed. All of us are concerned by "how much is it going to differ?"

But news is very sparse and stingy coming out of the McCaffreys or Copperheart. All we can do is wait & hope for the best :shrug:

[Bronze-Dragonrider]

As long as it's a significant length, NO LESS than two hours, I think they can do it justice. None of the Pern books are very long... Eragon was a LARGE book crammed into 95 minutes = disaster. Look at the first two Harry Potter book-to-movies: they were about 300 pages long and were excellently adapted. Most other pern books were about 350-400 pages, so more will have to be cut, but that's the way it goes. It's not so much what they cut, but how they handle what they cut.

Plus, Eragon had a very weak script. If they give Pern a REALISTIC, non-corny script with good actors, it should do well.

[Milo]

I think it's best to be pragmatic about it. If all we get are flashy looking dragons, then c'est la vie.

But if we go in expecting the world (Pern, that is) then we're setting ourselves up for disappointment.

[Bamy]

Considering that they appear to be working on D Dawn, I think it IS going to be more plot oriented than 'Flashy dragon' oriented....the dragons don't appear until later in the story if you remember....and they have the ability to make the hatching look really good and then will have to fast forward time a little to when they are getting bigger and then further still to the first fight scene etc....at best they will be in the first half of the film, at worst the last third.

[Bronze-Dragonrider]

I think it's best to be pragmatic about it. If all we get are flashy looking dragons, then c'est la vie.

But if we go in expecting the world (Pern, that is) then we're setting ourselves up for disappointment.

Well, Pern ISN'T all flashy looking dragons. In ALL of the Pern books, the dragons serve the plot, not the other way around. If we get a GOOD team working on Pern, like on LotR, then it can be done well. Eragon was a team that didn't give a shit what they did to the book. They took the rights and raped them.

[Bronze-Dragonrider]

Considering that they appear to be working on D Dawn, I think it IS going to be more plot oriented than 'Flashy dragon' oriented....the dragons don't appear until later in the story if you remember....and they have the ability to make the hatching look really good and then will have to fast forward time a little to when they are getting bigger and then further still to the first fight scene etc....at best they will be in the first half of the film, at worst the last third.

I'd say that a bit more than third is likely, just to play up the action. In the book, the dragons have less than a third from when they hatch It even fits in with the form of a movie - First act, landing and settling in. Second act - Thread, dealing with the disaster and trying to find a way to battle it. Third act - the dragons hatch, then soon the volcano blows and they move North, and the big aerial battle at the end, with them landing and Sean closing the movie with his immortal words.

[Lady Arwyn]

We can still have lots of cool firelizards, they appear in the first third of the book.

[McClance]

My appetite is whetting from reading all of this...
:whee:

[Lady Arwyn]

<--- *knows something and feels incredibly guilty for not saying anything but can't say anything...*

[Ryuu]

<--- *knows something and feels incredibly guilty for not saying anything but can't say anything...*:suspic:

& just WHERE are you getting your knowledge from? :yeah:

[Lady Arwyn]

Let's just say it's first-hand knowledge.

[Ryuu]

Let's just say it's first-hand knowledge.Anything to do with the sizes of the natives? :suspic:

[Bamy]

<--- *knows something and feels incredibly guilty for not saying anything but can't say anything...*
:puppyeyes?????

[Bronze-Dragonrider]

Arwyn, that is SO not fair to say you know something but you can't say! :p

Can you at least hint us toward what it's regarding, please? :angel:

[Lady Arwyn]

Let's just say, don't trust everything you read

[Bronze-Dragonrider]

:erm: But we haven't read ANYTHING regarding the movies lately! :laugh:

Or is there something forthcoming soon? Is it good news or bad news?

[Milo]

She means that it might not be DragonsDawn.

[Nenwen]

She means that it might not be DragonsDawn.

I can't begin to tell you how pissed off I'll be if they don't start with DragonsDawn.

[Bronze-Dragonrider]

GRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!

[Ryuu]

I can't begin to tell you how pissed off I'll be if they don't start with DragonsDawn.Well, Dragonflight WOULD be the next logical one to start off with, if they weren't going to go with Dragonsdawn :shrug:

[Lady Arwyn]

Moreta would also be a logical starting point, it is really the only story that is wholly complete in and of itself.

[Milo]

I can't begin to tell you how pissed off I'll be if they don't start with DragonsDawn.

GRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!

Well, Dragonflight WOULD be the next logical one to start off with, if they weren't going to go with Dragonsdawn :shrug:
I was just speculating... :p
Moreta would also be a logical starting point, it is really the only story that is wholly complete in and of itself.

Stop shit stirring! :evil:

[Ryuu]

I was just speculating... :pWell, my bp never spiked... :shrug:

[Jr'dan]

I just want to see they're concepts of the dragons. I think although we love the books the way they are, we also gotta remember that these movies are only BASED on the books. And that is the part that sucks the most. Man, if I could make a movie about 4 hours long...then, we would have an excellent Pern movie.

[Lady Arwyn]

Some months back one of the artists they hired put his concept work for the dragons on an online forum. It came down really, really fast once word got around.

I copied them fast, if you want to see them I'll be happy to email them to you.

[Bamy]

I have them too...I think.

[Bronze-Dragonrider]

Some months back one of the artists they hired put his concept work for the dragons on an online forum. It came down really, really fast once word got around.

I copied them fast, if you want to see them I'll be happy to email them to you.

I have those too, and while it's beautiful artwork, I can guarantee you 100% that it's not what they'll look like on screen. That was eaaaaaaaarly concept art, and they always have tons of artists come up with different pictures, I bet there's already at least dozens that we haven't seen.This person said that they hadn't even read the book, so I doubt they'll go with something that isn't at least a little accurate.

[Brenda]

PHOOEY!!!

I went to go sign up for another free trial at IMDBpro, and they were on to me! "This credit card account has already been used for a free trial at IMDBpro." DRAT!

So if anyone wants to see if there's been an update, they'll have to find someone else willing to use a credit card to take a quick look. :irked:

[Bamy]

Darn :sad:

[McClance]

So if anyone wants to see if there's been an update, they'll have to find someone else willing to use a credit card to take a quick look. :irked:

What's involved in cancelling one's membership?

I might be able to look if the method for cancelling is simple enough.

[Brenda]

I didn't have any trouble - basically you sign up for an account, and you have fourteen days to decide whether you actually want to pay for it or not. If you cancel within that time there's no charge. It was really easy for me - I signed up, copied every bit I could find from the Pern movie entry, then cancelled.

[McClance]

Okay. Maybe, I'll do try it in a month or two. There's more of a chance that there'll be something new up in that case.

:)

[Bamy]

When you do could you Pleeeease also have a look at the Imdb pro thingfor Temeraire? :puppyeyes?

[McClance]

Not a problem. ;)

[Jr'dan]

Some months back one of the artists they hired put his concept work for the dragons on an online forum. It came down really, really fast once word got around.

I copied them fast, if you want to see them I'll be happy to email them to you.

That would be awesome! Thank you! :whee:

[Lady Arwyn]

You're going to have to send me your email address.

[SKI]

It has been almost a year since I have visited this sight and was glad to hear that there was a movie of Pern in the making. I skipped through the posts and from what I gathered the movie may not be from Dragondawn. Has anyone received any news when in Pern's history the movie may take place?

SKI:coffee:

[Lady Arwyn]

Given the concept art that was accidently released, I'm guessing Dragonflight, maybe combined with Dragonquest. The art included mostly Lessa with Ramoth and Mirrim with Path. It's no guarantee, but considering that ALL of the artwork was of early 9th Pass stuff, I would guess this is what we'll be seeing.

I think this would be a good storyline. Both books are pretty short, really. A story arch including Lessa's Search and Impression, Ramoth's first flight/change of power in the Weyr, the Holder Revolt, the first Threadfall, Lessa going back for the Oldtimers, Mirrim Impressing, the death of Wirenth and Pridith, F'nor and Canth's trip to the Red Star and the Oldtimers turning bad and their subsequent banishment to Southern, is a good, complete storyline that can last a couple of hours, as the stories are written.

[Bronze-Dragonrider]

:faint: Dear god in heaven, PLEASE don't let it be a combined movie! They're short enough to each have a separate movie without any major cuts or changes, especially DF, but if they were combined, it would be a horrific massacre or butchering. It would be far, FAR too crammed and rushed, not to mention that it completely undermines the accomplishment and momentum leading up to Lessa's ride back in time. This should be done at the end of a movie to give it the proper climax it deserves, not smack in the middle.

[Bamy]

Personally I think that that concept art was from the Warner Bros. attempt...we know that they were doing 9th pass after all...

[Bronze-Dragonrider]

I doubt it... in the thread on Conceptart.org in which it was posted, it seemed like it was recent work rather that something done nearly a decade ago.

[Brenda]

Just pointing out again that the plot synopsis at IMDBpro seems to focus on Dragonsdawn. Also, I thought concept art usually isn't very specific.

I'll be happy with either one but right now I'm leaning towards DDawn.

[Lady Arwyn]

I mentioned earlier (in another thread?) don't believe the synopsis.

[Brenda]

Oh. Is it just because of the art, or is there more? Just curious.

[Lady Arwyn]

I have it on good authority (first hand) that the person who wrote the synopsis has no idea what the actual storyline is. It could still be Dragonsdawn, but this person has no *actual* knowledge.

I still think, from the artwork, that it will be Dragonflight maybe adding Dragonquest. Otherwise, why show Mirrim and Path?

[Bronze-Dragonrider]

Why the heck did they write THAT synopsis if they didn't know? Wouldn't it be better to write a more vague one or none at all? :roll: Some people...

[Lady Arwyn]

You are aware that *anyone* who has an IMDb Pro membership can make such an entry...

[Bronze-Dragonrider]

That is... completely stupid.

[C'non]

I mentioned earlier (in another thread?) don't believe the synopsis.

I'm SO glad I'm not the only one. :)

[Bamy]

I have it on good authority (first hand) that the person who wrote the synopsis has no idea what the actual storyline is. It could still be Dragonsdawn, but this person has no *actual* knowledge.

I still think, from the artwork, that it will be Dragonflight maybe adding Dragonquest. Otherwise, why show Mirrim and Path?
Did it specifically mention it as being Mirrim and Path? Could it have been Debera and Morath from RSR/DE?

[Bronze-Dragonrider]

If they're going to start with anything, it's going to be either Dragonsdawn or Dragonflight. Great a story as D'eye is, it's just not a good introductory one, and I would be seriously baffled if they were even considering it.

[McClance]

Okay. I signed up for IMDBpro.

No change from what Brenda last reported.

I'll check again before I cancel it in 13 days.

:)

[Allicapri]

I still think, from the artwork, that it will be Dragonflight maybe adding Dragonquest. Otherwise, why show Mirrim and Path?
Why indeed, since Mirrim and Path don't appear until The White Dragon. Adding a little bit of Dragonquest to Dragonflight might work (but with a several year gap and a perfectly climactic ending to Dragonflight it seems asinine), but cramming in The White Dragon would just be ridiculous.

I'm hoping against hope it's Dragonsdawn, but I'd take anything at this point--except perhaps the entire original trilogy smashed into one.

[Lady Arwyn]

Mirrim Impresses Path in Dragondrums and is an adult dragonrider by TWD.

[Allicapri]

That's true, but she still doesn't Impress until three Turns after Dragonquest ends--almost when TWD begins--so I really hope that concept art is not actually reflective of the movie. It would just be too much and wouldn't do any of the plots justice.

[dragonnkitten]

This is on their website:


'Pern' booked for big-screen flight'Pern' booked
Borys Kit
May 25, 2006


Anne McCaffrey's best-selling and long-running sci-fi/fantasy series "The Dragonriders of Pern" is getting the big-screen treatment via Canadian production company Copperheart Entertainment.

Copperheart, which was behind the 2005 Oscar-winning animated short "Ryan," has optioned the 19-book series, which began with the "Dragonflight" in 1968. The books are best known for having humans ride dragons with which they telepathically bond. With "Dragonflight," McCaffrey became the first woman ever to win a Hugo for fiction, and she is one of the 2006 inductees into the Science Fiction Hall of Fame.

"I decided that 'Pern' had to be done right, and I wouldn't let it go to someone unless I was certain that they were committed to excellence," McCaffrey said.

Copperheart, run by Steve Hoban, also has produced the Imax 3-D movie "Cyberworld" as well as the popular "Ginger Snaps" horror series. Hoban is in postproduction on the remake of the 1970s horror cult classic "Black Christmas."

[Brenda]

That does sound like they're focusing on Dragonflight after all.

I hope there's some kind of intro, a way to explain the coming threat of Thread...

[edith]

A voiceover with Anne's introduction "When is a Legend a Legend, when is a myth a myth" (from memory)

[Ryuu]

This is on their website:


'Pern' booked for big-screen flight'Pern' booked
Borys Kit
May 25, 2006


Anne McCaffrey's best-selling and long-running sci-fi/fantasy series "The Dragonriders of Pern" is getting the big-screen treatment via Canadian production company Copperheart Entertainment.

Copperheart, which was behind the 2005 Oscar-winning animated short "Ryan," has optioned the 19-book series, which began with the "Dragonflight" in 1968. The books are best known for having humans ride dragons with which they telepathically bond. With "Dragonflight," McCaffrey became the first woman ever to win a Hugo for fiction, and she is one of the 2006 inductees into the Science Fiction Hall of Fame.

"I decided that 'Pern' had to be done right, and I wouldn't let it go to someone unless I was certain that they were committed to excellence," McCaffrey said.

Copperheart, run by Steve Hoban, also has produced the Imax 3-D movie "Cyberworld" as well as the popular "Ginger Snaps" horror series. Hoban is in postproduction on the remake of the 1970s horror cult classic "Black Christmas."That's what's been on their page about it since this thread started.

No real news, unfortunately--and no hint as to which book they're going to start with.

They're only giving the publication history of Anne's series and carefully NOT saying which story they're going to work on (there may still be issues with WB's previous work on it that could be the reason for the silence :shrug: )

[dragonnkitten]

That's what's been on their page about it since this thread started.

I didn't realize that. When I checked their website a couple of weeks ago this was not on there.
I just thought it was a nice confirmation of intent.

V

[Mage]

It's been on their site for as long as I've known about the movie. Perhaps the site design has changed then, though.

[Bamy]

Anybody had a recent look at the IMDB pro section?

[GHarris]

Anybody had a recent look at the IMDB pro section?


No, but the Copperheart site doesn't have any new news on PERN.

GH

[Ian]

In the words of basically everyone in Star Wars: I have a bad feeling about this.

[Valihi Wingsecond]

>_< Noes!

[Bamy]

In the words of basically everyone in Star Wars: I have a bad feeling about this.
Ditto.

[GHarris]

Ditto.

I don't. To me, having a bad feeling about it would mean that they make PERN, but they do it badly.

While I'd be disappointed if this production doesn't get made into a PERN movie, I'd rather that happen, then they make a bad PERN movie.

GH

[Ryuu]

I have a bad feeling about the potential SAG strike (http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/05/07/hollywood.labor.ap/index.html) that's looming :erm:

Another such disruption (like the writers' strike of 2007-2008 & the crippling 1999-2000 strike that started the networks' "reality-tv" addition in the first place) will only mean more of this sewage pouring out of the TVs--& delays of new movies coming out--especially PERN!:mad:

[Nenwen]

Dear God,

Please don't let them do it as an animated film.

And please let it get done before I'm dead and buried.

Amen.

:typing:

[God]

Dear Claire,

Keep dreaming.

God

[-H-]

Your a false God!

A real God wouldn't have to edit a post :megaphone

[Milo]

I have a bad feeling about the potential SAG strike (http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/05/07/hollywood.labor.ap/index.html) that's looming :erm:

Another such disruption (like the writers' strike of 2007-2008 & the crippling 1999-2000 strike that started the networks' "reality-tv" addition in the first place) will only mean more of this sewage pouring out of the TVs--& delays of new movies coming out--especially PERN!:mad:
Dude.

Any Pern film is nowhere near being affected by that.
Your a false God!

A real God wouldn't have to edit a post :megaphone

Speaking of which...

Besides, haven't you read the Bible? God edits all the time.

[Brenda]

That's not God, that's the translators doing that.

[Bronze-Dragonrider]

Dear Claire,

Keep dreaming.

God
:rofl:

Your a false God!

A real God wouldn't have to edit a post :megaphone
:rofl: :rofl:

Besides, haven't you read the Bible? God edits all the time.
:rofl: :rofl2: :rofl:

[Ryuu]

That's not God, that's the translators doing that.God only wrote 10 lines on an essay, but His secretary/editor was having a bad day at the office and lost them & asked for a rewrite with the suggestion that it be an expanded and jazzier version. After a 2nd rewrite, however, God decided to have his dictation team just fill in the gaps instead....:giggle:

[Vyon]

God is an apprentice?

[Mage]

God is an apprentice?

Nevermind that; God is an Anne McCaffrey fan? Scary.

[Vyon]

Why? She creates whole universes.

[Kaoru]

Has anyone checked the release date on IMDB? Looks like they've changed the date to 2011.

[Brenda]

Yeah - is anyone a member of IMDB Pro?

[Nenwen]

Not me. But I'm not at all surprised that the release date has been changed...again.


:typing:

[Mage]

Me either. Actually I'm seriously inclined to doubt that it'll ever be released at all.

[Bronze-Dragonrider]

Good grief, the original date was absurdly optimistic, they had only JUST optioned it, with no director or writer, and expected it to come out within two years. The release date is not reliable at all unless it has actually begun serious production, so don't get all huffy about it until the project is on its feet. Until then, completely ignore IMDB's release dates. A huge percentage of movies' release dates change.

[Mage]

Good grief, the original date was absurdly optimistic, they had only JUST optioned it, with no director or writer, and expected it to come out within two years. The release date is not reliable at all unless it has actually begun serious production, so don't get all huffy about it until the project is on its feet. Until then, completely ignore IMDB's release dates. A huge percentage of movies' release dates change.

I'm not huffy about it. I'm merely cynical. Honestly, in many ways I wish they wouldn't release a movie about Pern, because I'm sure it will lead to many complaints from the fans--and that's if it's even developed and produced well enough to be worth watching at all (if not, then also add complaints by everybody else). Also I've outgrown the series (I still discuss it here, 'cause, well, I get bored and it's something I used to read well enough to know what I'm talking about--and I RP it some here 'cause, well, try getting people here to RP anything else), so it's not the number one thing I'd go see at the movies. Still I'd feel obligated to watch it no matter how horrible it turned out, because it's something I used to be really into. I also used to read and re-read the books regularly, and faithfully buy and read any new one that came out. Now? I think it's been two years or more since I cracked one of 'em open, and I haven't read any of Todd's, in no small part due to what I've heard about his writing here. We've heard multiple times before about Pern movies/TV shows, and they haven't come to pass. Let's also not forget the recent Pern game that was tremendously lacking in polish (I won't say it was a horrible game, but it was quite cliche, wasn't very true to Pern what with the many battles to the death by a dragonrider, and most importantly it had more glitches than the initial release of a Windows OS).

Of course they could get the movie out in a couple of years and have it totally knock everyone's socks off quality-wise. It could have the plot just altered enough to make it really engaging for a two- to three-hour film without totally destroying the source material. The visual effects might be breathtaking (this part I suspect will be true when it's put out--if it is--but I'm nowhere near so sure about the general treatment of the film). They might even make dragons that everyone agrees are Pernese. Who knows? I, however, am not holding my breath, and for the reasons mentioned above I'm not even tremendously excited about this movie anymore.

If I'm cynical on the matter of the film being released, especially when according to IMDB it's got a good three years of development to go (within which anything could happen, including the film being scrapped or the decision to make it into a made-for-TV miniseries, etc.), is it really surprising? I'm not getting my hopes up--actually I'm not sure I even hope for this film. I think we'd all be wiser and better off to eagerly look forward to some new fantasy or science fiction flick that hasn't been adapted from books, if only because it'd spare a lot of the bigger fans some pain when they see so many details that just aren't what they had hoped for. But maybe that's just me.

[mawofone]

We did talk about the movie at Dragoncon. Anne said she told the producers that she was 81 years old & wanted to see the movie. Sooner than latter would be good.
It is going to be live action NOT anamated. They want to do it right. They want EVERYONE who is working on the movie to have read & liked the books. She said that an actor, I foreget wich one, was intrested in a part. Anne was excited because that ment that the actor had READ the books & LIKED them. Cav. might be able to tell you more about what was said. I think she was there.

[Brenda]

:faint:

:bouncy:

[Bronze-Dragonrider]

We did talk about the movie at Dragoncon. Anne said she told the producers that she was 81 years old & wanted to see the movie. Sooner than latter would be good.
It is going to be live action NOT anamated. They want to do it right. They want EVERYONE who is working on the movie to have read & liked the books. She said that an actor, I foreget wich one, was intrested in a part. Anne was excited because that ment that the actor had READ the books & LIKED them. Cav. might be able to tell you more about what was said. I think she was there.

Pierce Brosnan by any chance? *hopeful*

[Cavatica]

Pierce Brosnan by any chance? *hopeful*
Anne said she's got a huge crush on Pierce Brosnan and was thrilled when his name was floated for F'lar (and apparently Brosnan was the one who floated it, which delighted her more than anything because "That means he's read my books!"). Unfortunately, everyone -- Anne, the production folks, and Brosnan -- agreed he was probably too old for the role.

Sorry, dude.

[Bronze-Dragonrider]

F'lar? :crazy:

BUT WHAT ABOUT ROBINTON??!?!! He's sheer perfection for the role.

[edith]

Think of him about the time of the first James Bond bonds. He'd've worked well then!

[Cavatica]

F'lar? :crazy:

BUT WHAT ABOUT ROBINTON??!?!! He's sheer perfection for the role.
Hi, Bronzie? Did you see any of the previews for "Mamma Mia"? If someone held a gun to Brosnan's head and told him to sing or be killed, you might as well (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hITSFgZTr4) just go grab a wet sponge to clean his brain off the wall.

[mawofone]

I am glad you popped in here Cavatica, I could not remeber all that was said. Thank you for clearint it up.

[Bronze-Dragonrider]

Hi, Bronzie? Did you see any of the previews for "Mamma Mia"? If someone held a gun to Brosnan's head and told him to sing or be killed, you might as well (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hITSFgZTr4) just go grab a wet sponge to clean his brain off the wall.

No I haven't. But if he sings terribly in that, hmm, maybe it's because he was supposed to in the script? I really don't know anything about the movie though, so it's just a guess.

But if he truly is THAT bad, they can always get him to lip sync to another replacement singer. I'm sure there are plenty of examples of this happening, because not every actor can sing perfectly, especially on the level of a master.

The only instance I can recall of him singing was in Dante's Peak, singing Row, Row, Row Your Boat :laugh:

[Cavatica]

No I haven't. But if he sings terribly in that, hmm, maybe it's because he was supposed to in the script? I really don't know anything about the movie though, so it's just a guess.

But if he truly is THAT bad, they can always get him to lip sync to another replacement singer. I'm sure there are plenty of examples of this happening, because not every actor can sing perfectly, especially on the level of a master.
...no. He is not supposed to sing terribly. In fact, he's supposed to sing well. The movie is based on the huge Broadway hit, which is itself based on ABBA's music -- and having just been jamming to "S.O.S." on the ride home from work yesterday, I promise you that, as much as we all like to snicker about ABBA, no one is ever off-key or straining in that particular song.

Brosnan himself has admitted the first time he heard himself sing, shortly after production started, he was horrified. He recorded his songs and walked up and down the beach, IIRC, practicing and practicing so he'd get better. Fat lot of good it did. He's been universally panned as one of the worst musical performers in the film or, in fact, anywhere.

In fact, here's a bit from an article from ABC News called "Some Actors Can Sing, and Some Shouldn't (http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/FallConcert/Story?id=5428363&page=1)": It's always a surprise for audiences when actors known more for their acting than their singing break out into song on the big screen. And some surprises are more pleasant than others. While Streep got cheers for her performance, her co-star Pierce Brosnan got jeers.

"People were definitely laughing," said movie musical fan Kim Fine, 23, who saw the movie in Chicago. "It felt a little bit strange, just to hear him sing. You could tell the whole theater felt it."

But maybe that was the point. Entertainment Weekly's reviewer wrote: "And just wait until Pierce Brosnan warbles 'S.O.S.' You'll laugh. And then you'll be charmed."

<snip>

"In 'Mamma Mia!' you have a couple people gamely attempting to carry a tune," said Carl DiOrio, deputy film editor at The Hollywood Reporter. "Some pull it off better than others. But I haven't seen any evidence that Brosnan's lesser abilities in that regard will serve the movie in any sort of negative way. You almost have to give him points for being gamely enough in his efforts."
Yikes. That's one of the more positive reviews, too.

Casting a voice-over actor to sing for him would be ridiculous and, I'm guessing, unnecessarily expensive. There are thousands and thousands of actors out there. Many of them can act AND sing AND look like Robinton. So you just get, you know, ONE actor and not two.

[mawofone]

There should be something he can do. Maybe an older rider.

[GHarris]

Casting a voice-over actor to sing for him would be ridiculous and, I'm guessing, unnecessarily expensive. There are thousands and thousands of actors out there. Many of them can act AND sing AND look like Robinton. So you just get, you know, ONE actor and not two.

Ok, so he can't sing. Voice-over artists are not that expensive, unless you want to hire a top 10 artist.

And while there are thousands of actors out there who can sing and act, how many have the acting skills of Pierce Brosnan (and the name recognition that would draw people that haven't read the books, and have expressed an interest in participating in the movie). And Robinton is the most likely character to have an established actor play the part. Every other part could be played by a fresh face (or at least one that has never been A-list).

And in my mind, he does look like Robinton. He is currently almost exactly the same age as Robinton at the beginning of DragonFlight. Has the same build (or close enough).

If you don't like Pierce Brosnan, what actor would you pick? Assume that you can pick any actor at all for Robinton.

Of course, at the rate they're going for getting the movie done, some of our choices for F'lar may be old enough to play Robinton by the time it is filmed. :)

GH

[Bronze-Dragonrider]

Oooh, a little off-topic, but I guess this thread is ok for it, upon random googling, I discovered a sculptor who had made "a majestic dragon for a then upcoming project pitch, Anne McCafferey's "Dragon Riders of Pern"."

I would LOOOOOOOVE to see his sculpture, but I can't find any way to contact him other than for commissions :(

http://www.markfordhamartist.com/fordhambio.html

[Cavatica]

Ok, so he can't sing. Voice-over artists are not that expensive, unless you want to hire a top 10 artist.

And while there are thousands of actors out there who can sing and act, how many have the acting skills of Pierce Brosnan (and the name recognition that would draw people that haven't read the books, and have expressed an interest in participating in the movie). And Robinton is the most likely character to have an established actor play the part. Every other part could be played by a fresh face (or at least one that has never been A-list).

And in my mind, he does look like Robinton. He is currently almost exactly the same age as Robinton at the beginning of DragonFlight. Has the same build (or close enough).

If you don't like Pierce Brosnan, what actor would you pick? Assume that you can pick any actor at all for Robinton.
What the hell is it with you people and Pierce Brosnan? First of all, he ISN'T that good of an actor. He does fine in the limited roles they give him -- action hero, usually (e.g. James Bond or the vulcanologist in Dante's Peak), or slick, highly sexualized ladies' man (e.g. The Thomas Crown Affair) -- and I know he's done a few indie flicks to avoid being typecast (fat lot of good it did), but honestly, he's not going to be winning any Oscars any time soon. It's ridiculous to be talking about hiring a second actor, a V.O. actor, just so y'all can crush on pretty Pierce Brosnan. There are better actors.

Who would I pick? This guy. (http://robinwood.com/Catalog/Prints/PrintSet.html) Find me that guy and we'll talk. :P

[Bronze-Dragonrider]

Because he's literally the only guy I've ever seen that looks EXACTLY as I've always pictured him in my mind. However unrealistic it is, I want HIM and ONLY him as my Robinton :p

[GHarris]

What the hell is it with you people and Pierce Brosnan? First of all, he ISN'T that good of an actor. He does fine in the limited roles they give him -- action hero, usually (e.g. James Bond or the vulcanologist in Dante's Peak), or slick, highly sexualized ladies' man (e.g. The Thomas Crown Affair) -- and I know he's done a few indie flicks to avoid being typecast (fat lot of good it did), but honestly, he's not going to be winning any Oscars any time soon. It's ridiculous to be talking about hiring a second actor, a V.O. actor, just so y'all can crush on pretty Pierce Brosnan. There are better actors.

How was Richard Gere's singing in Chicago? I could see him doing Robinton.

The reason why people talk about Pierce Brosnan, is that he's about the closest match to that picture that people recognize. It also helps that AMC has said that she has a crush on him, and would like to see him in the movie. And there are reports that he has expressed an interest in a AMC Dragonriders movie (which means that he has probably read the books). And that he is the right age to play Robinton in DF (of course, Richard Gere and Tom Selleck are, also).

Hmmm, just looked at IMDB for various actors, and saw that Kevin Bacon is 50 years old. He is starting to fit into the right age category, and, though I haven't heard his singing, doesn't he sing in a rock band?

GH

[Bamy]

What the hell is it with you people and Pierce Brosnan? First of all, he ISN'T that good of an actor. He does fine in the limited roles they give him -- action hero, usually (e.g. James Bond or the vulcanologist in Dante's Peak), or slick, highly sexualized ladies' man (e.g. The Thomas Crown Affair) -- and I know he's done a few indie flicks to avoid being typecast (fat lot of good it did), but honestly, he's not going to be winning any Oscars any time soon. It's ridiculous to be talking about hiring a second actor, a V.O. actor, just so y'all can crush on pretty Pierce Brosnan. There are better actors.

Who would I pick? This guy. (http://robinwood.com/Catalog/Prints/PrintSet.html) Find me that guy and we'll talk. :P
He reminds me of Jimmy Saville...

[mawofone]

Wasn't he based on a real person, Cavatica. I think I remembered reading it some where.

[Ryuu]

Anne modeled Robinton, Lessa, F'lar, and several others from people she knew while writing the books. Robinton was based on a music teacher friend of hers, named Robinson IIRC. Dragonholder details a lot of who was who.

Robin Wood used several notable actors as well as Anne's friends as the models for her paintings, so they're not necessarily the same folks as Anne originally had in mind. I'm not sure who she used for Robinton's pictures.

[Nenwen]

The one on the cover of the dust jacket reminds me of Peter Wingfield. He's the guy who played Methos in the Highlander series. The portrait on page 49 reminds me of Ricardo Montalban.(Fantasy Island, ST2: The Wrath of Kahn)

Alemi's portrait reminds me of a young Ronn Moss.(The Bold and the Beautiful)

Elgion= a young Dirk Benedict. (A Team)

Petiron= The late Anthony Quinn

Sharra= Anna Paquin(as a blond)

I think the main problem is that all of the ones we(meaning all of us in general on this BB) could picture in the older roles are getting to be too old to play those roles now. Ten or fifteen years ago, they would have been perfect for the parts. And not all of them would be that expensive compared to other actors and actresses.

Nicole Kidman(if her hair was blonde) might be good for Kylara but she'd want at least $10million to play the measely role. Measely in the sense that it's not a very big role as far as the amount of dialog and action goes. Though it is a significant role as far as being catalystic at pivotal moments.

A lot of thought should also go into the amount of dialog and action various characters have in the books. It's an ensemble cast of characters. Which means it's kind of stupid to be paying $10million for anyone to play any of the roles because many of the roles require very little action or dialog on the whole.

Viggo Mortensen had a lot to do in Hidalgo, but got less than $2million for that role. In comparison, Orlando Bloom got a minimum of $2million for Troy and for Kingdom of Heaven, not counting the royalties since those movies debuted. Brad Pitt reportedly also got more than $2million for Troy(although I can't imagine why anyone might think he was worth that much).

The budget of the Pern Films will likely determine who gets what roles. The budget for the three Lord of the Rings films was previously unheard of. And the ensemble cast got standard SAG wages for it all. If the producers can manage to get a similar budget for Pern and get the ensemble cast to agree to standard SAG wages for it all, they should be able to get a good cast together without going overboard and caving in to any A list stars' demands.

[GHarris]

The budget of the Pern Films will likely determine who gets what roles. The budget for the three Lord of the Rings films was previously unheard of. And the ensemble cast got standard SAG wages for it all. If the producers can manage to get a similar budget for Pern and get the ensemble cast to agree to standard SAG wages for it all, they should be able to get a good cast together without going overboard and caving in to any A list stars' demands.


Of those stars, there were only a few that I would consider A/B list.

Ian McKellan (A)
Cate Blanchett (A)
Christopher Lee (B)
Sean Astin (B)
Liv Tyler (B)
Elijah Wood (B)
Viggo Mortensen (B)
Ian Holm (B)
John Rhys-Davies (B)
Hugo Weaving (B)
Sean Bean (B)

So most are B-listers, and the A-listers strike me as willing to take less money for interesting roles. And LotR is a lot better known than PERN, so would be more likely to get people for SAG wages.

A list meaning they have had the starring role in a significant film.
B list meaning they have had the starring role in a smaller film, or they have been a costar in a significant film.

Significant film meaning one that has either earned tons of awards or made more than $100,000,000.

Of the people that I have seen mentioned for roles in PERN, I think that the producers might be able/want to get an A-list person for Robinton, but every other part would be either B-list or unknown.

GH

[Lady Arwyn]

Since they're making Dragonflight, in which Robinton is a relatively minor role, I would get an A-lister for one of the primary roles in that particular story, F'lar or Lessa. Robinton is a major character in later books but he only shows up a few times, as an advisor for the Weyrleaders, in D'f.

[Bamy]

Anyone been on IMDB Pro recently?

[GHarris]

Since they're making Dragonflight, in which Robinton is a relatively minor role, I would get an A-lister for one of the primary roles in that particular story, F'lar or Lessa. Robinton is a major character in later books but he only shows up a few times, as an advisor for the Weyrleaders, in D'f.

The point is, you don't want to say that's Kate Beckinsale playing Lessa or Hugh Jackman playing F'lar, because they are the main characters.

You'd rather have someone that tends to disappear into their roles or an unknown with good acting skills.

For a character like Robinton, he shows up at important times to help spur on the action, and if they have to cut some scenes out, he would be in the best position to speak on what just happened as the MHoP. Or ask questions of F'lar and Lessa on what is happening (How's that Weyr that you sent to the past going?). So, I see Robinton's role in a DF movie slightly expanded.

Also, the producers may want one really well known name to attract casual movie goers. Robinton would be the best character for that. F'lar would be better than Lessa. Groghe might work, but he gets even less time than Robinton (but it would be interesting to see John Rhys-Davies as either Groghe or Fandarel).

When I think of DragonFlight, I think of it as Lessa's story. And since she is supposed to be 18 when the story begins, you probably will not see an A-list actress in that role. F'lar is the next main character, so he could be a candidate for a known actor. F'nor, Robinton, and Kylara probably see the next amount of time, and F'nor and Kylara don't strike me as having name actors playing them (especially if you don't have name actors for F'lar and Lessa). I could see Manora being played by an older actress that used to be an A-list star (Dame Maggie Smith?), but her screen time would be limited.

So that really leaves us with two characters that would actually qualify for a well known current movie star, F'lar and Robinton.

GH

[Dragongirl]

The point is, you don't want to say that's Kate Beckinsale playing Lessa or Hugh Jackman playing F'lar, because they are the main characters.


Goddamnit.

[Gilder]

Who would I pick? This guy. (http://robinwood.com/Catalog/Prints/PrintSet.html) Find me that guy and we'll talk. :P

Cavatica, would singer/songwriter/actor Ronny Cox be a good compromise for you?
http://www.ronnycox.com/

Before you say no, wander through the photo galleries and listen to some of the music samples. Look for the photos where his hair is white; they are the most recent.

[Bronze-Dragonrider]

I'll never be able to see him as anything but the evil bastard Kinsey from Stargate SG:1 :laugh:

[GHarris]

I'll never be able to see him as anything but the evil bastard Kinsey from Stargate SG:1 :laugh:

I remember him as the evil bastard Mars ruler from Total Recall.

He's probably been the villain too many times to be Robinton. Maybe he could be Petiron (in a flashback) or in a scene that introduces Menolly.

GH

[greendragon]

While he doesn't have the looks for the part, Mandy Patinkin certainly has the range of talents for it.... :) (Robinton, I mean)

[Master Elrhan]

Anyone been on IMDB Pro recently?
No, but the regular one now lists the year for US release of the movie as 2011 (or is that old news?)

[GHarris]

While he doesn't have the looks for the part, Mandy Patinkin certainly has the range of talents for it.... :) (Robinton, I mean)

He would pass Cavatica's test of being able to sing without a voice double, and he is about the right age.

GH

[Tony]

Anne always said that if the choice was her's, this guy would play Robinton.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000342/

[GHarris]

Anne always said that if the choice was her's, this guy would play Robinton.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000342/

I've also heard quotes that she wanted Pierce Brosnan to be in the film.

GH

[Master Elrhan]

GHarris is right, last time I spoke to Anne in person she said maybe Pierce Brosnan was affordable to play Robinton. She also said he would then be the one big name, because after him there wouldn't be any money left to hire other big names.

Question is, can he sing?

[Lyra]

He tried to sing in Mamma Mia... it was painful!

[Gini_xX]

He tried to sing in Mamma Mia... it was painful!

I agree whole-heartedly with Lyra, it was rather awful. Had to restrain my friends from eating her own ears.

[Samarra]

What a circular conversation.

[Gini_xX]

Most probably, I don't bother looking too far above the last few posts :shrug:

There have been too many attempts at the movie already to get me excited about this one.

[Bronze-Dragonrider]

What a circular conversation.

:haha2:

[Samarra]

GREAT, glad you have a vision for it, blah blah, but can you please put that in the thread about Pern Dream Cast (http://annemccaffreyfans.org/forum/showthread.php?t=13208) or one of the multitude (http://annemccaffreyfans.org/forum/showthread.php?t=10570) of (http://annemccaffreyfans.org/forum/showthread.php?t=17066) others (http://annemccaffreyfans.org/forum/showthread.php?t=16775) catered solely to your amateur casting wishes? This thread, like the title suggests, is for actual NEWS, and I'm sick of clicking on it, hoping, and getting stuff that's not remotely related.

/RAGE

[Dragon Lover 789]

Well sorry. Every one was talking about actors and I thought that it would be alright. I'll go put the list over in that forum.

Once again, I'm sorry that I gave you a false hope.

[Samarra]

Yes, and it's way out of hand. The "YOU" was meant to be a general one.

[Dragon Lover 789]

Ah alright.