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[Weyrwoman Kalina]

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[Weyrwoman Kalina]

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And Thus Begins the Next Age of Spam
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I want my Spam TV!
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I Pwn Spam!
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The HitchHickers Guide to Spam
Spam: The Elixir of Procrastination
Spamsanity! (or lack thereof)
Make Mine Spam on the Rocks
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Spam me, Baby!

[Weyrwoman Kalina]

Welcome to the new Spam!!!! :D

[murphy]

:wave: Hi, there.

[Weyrwoman Kalina]

Thank you to the one who knows who they are. ;) :tighthug:

[celticdragonsong]

Glad I deleted my last post, :gag:

Okay, time for bed. Must work tomorrow.

:wave:

:sleep2:

[Bronze-Dragonrider]

You rock :evil:

[celticdragonsong]

Oh, Bronzie, I like your avatar. That looks like the face I get from my cat when I'm not playing with him.

[Milo]

*gutters title* :)

[celticdragonsong]

*gutters title* :)

Should you do anything less????????

[Milo]

Should you do anything less????????

I should hope not!

[Faren]

I'm standing as a candidate in the local elections ;)

.

So you are. I note you've taken this Lib dem-leaning voter's opinion of their bar graphs to heart....
Is there a link somewhere where I can read about this??
Quit laughing at me, that's the only time I'd ever heard it, I didn't knoooooow! :doh:
:patpat: I kind of like the way you say it anyway. ;)
:haha2: http://img47.exs.cx/img47/4125/face5oa.jpg
:haha2:
I didn't realise quite how much I needed that laugh :biggrin:
OMG, driving home yesterday, I almost had a wreck I was laughing so hard. I listen to a local morning show, and the fellow who normally is in charge of the board let his two co-hosts give it a try. The girl wasn't too bad, but the other guy. :laugh: He got completely lost, hung up on people, had commercials running on top of songs and kept saying "Help!". The song he kept playing was "Tell me What you Want" by the Spice Girls. Sooooo funny!
I am a masterful weaver of bullshit. :yes:

Sounds like a custom title to me. :whistle:

[mawofone]

Milo is there anything you don't gutter?

[mawofone]

The problem with Kibby & long divion is not that she does not know how to do it, it is that long divion HAS to be WRITTEN out. That is where her digraphia come in to play.

[mawofone]

We just found out that Kibby's dog is not fond of recoons coming into the house to eat the cat food.

[Milo]

Milo is there anything you don't gutter?

Can I get back to you on that?

[Ryuu]

Milo is there anything you don't gutter?only the gutter, itself :suspic:

[mawofone]

Do you realy need to think about it, Milo?

[Ryuu]

Quit laughing at me, that's the only time I'd ever heard it, I didn't knoooooow! :doh:heh

*snicker*

:iggle:


*snort*


mmmmmmmmmmmmmm...(":cat:pwr")....:shriek::haha2::rofl2:

[mawofone]

Mom is settles in for the night & I have to get up so GOOD NIGHT ALL. Damn it, the dog is chasing the racoon again.

[Ryuu]

Mom is settles in for the night & I have to get up so GOOD NIGHT ALL. Damn it, the dog is chasing the racoon again.You've got cats, dogs, & racoons??:blink:--who needs kids? :shrug:

[Ryuu]

welllll shit!:tears:

I'm out of stuff to procrastinate at w**k:erm:

[Sharon]

We just found out that Kibby's dog is not fond of recoons coming into the house to eat the cat food.

Well coming into the house itself is a bit much.

[Sharon]

welllll shit!:tears:

I'm out of stuff to procrastinate at w**k:erm:

Poor Ryuu! :giggle:

[Weyrwoman Kalina]

You rock :evil:

*preens* Thank you, thank you very much.

*gutters title* :)

:whistle:

[Milo]

only the gutter, itself :suspic:
...

I can gutter that no problem.
Do you realy need to think about it, Milo?

Just trying to think of something that I could not gutter...

[Ryuu]

Poor Ryuu! :giggle:Sharon, I like that avatar :ok:

[Ryuu]

:rofl2:

I agree.

Best. Batman. Line. EVER! (http://www.superdickery.com/oneshot/45.html):laugh:

[edith]

We just found out that Kibby's dog is not fond of recoons coming into the house to eat the cat food.

Oh dear.

Nick's dogs managed to corner one of their cats on Sunday :irked:
No one was pleased of them as the cat isn't very tame yet, though she's better than she as, and is pregnant.

[edith]

And awesome. :dalek1:

and cute



*snip*

Here's where logic comes into play: How do you prove a planet has life like we know it--that is--carbon-based life? Answer: find free oxygen in the air! Free oxygen is a highly reactive gas that is only released in large quantities due to photosynthesis of from chlorophyll. Without plants to replenish the free oxygen, the air would quickly become unfit for life as the oxygen combines with minerals in the ground and is removed from the atmosphere.

Now we go back to Venus: What process can possibly be keeping its atmosphere so filled with highly reactive sulfuric acid, and at the same time be responsible for so much CO2 there? Something has to be replenishing the sulfuric acid. Answer: only ONE known thing--intense, planet-wide volcanism. Except we don't see any active volcanoes on Venus!

Which brings up one other factor about Venus: its strange rotation compared to the other planets. What could possibly cause it to have a retrograde orbit? It can’t be due to solar tides slowing it down—there are no oceans, and no moon to tug at them. After all, our moon actually has a larger influence to slowing Earth’s rotation down. Besides, tidal forces slow down the rotation until is matches the orbit about the sun—they CAN’T cause the planet to have a retrograde orbit! Only ONE known thing exists that could cause this, which, incidentally, would ALSO explain the features of Venus’ atmosphere: a large asteroid collision.

A collision that would be powerful enough to reverse a planet’s rotation, or perhaps flip it over, would shatter the crust like an egg, releasing the heat of the planet’s mantle. Any oceans Venus might’ve had would be instantly vaporized, the water blending with sulfur trioxide in the resulting magma to form sulfuric acid. Whatever limestone and other mineral deposits of CO2 Venus might’ve had would break down and release stupendous amounts into the atmosphere. The reason we don’t see volcanoes on Venus is the entire planet was a volcano and has only recently began reforming its crust. Carl Sagan and other astronomers knew these facts. However, without measureable proof, without an impact site they can identify, the astronomy community is reluctant to put the pieces back together to put forward a theory that explain this.

*snip*

So far, no one factor can be shown to be THE cause, although many recent articles about scientists refuting the popular cause of Global Warming say they’ve been looking closer at the solar output due to a sharp drop in the expected trend.

check the Venus facts. I'm not a planetary physicist but something there doesn't read right, especially considering the amount of posters that bombard you in this dept.

Solar output's been disproved but it's too early for me to look this up (and I need to start work)

Well, at least Boo and I have our medicine and will be on the mend soon, if I can get Boo to actually take her medicine that is. She's refusing to drink the sip or two of milk I slipped the antibiotics and Tylenol into, and she has this tendency to start wailing so hard if we dare try to give it to her with the dropper that she chokes.

Maybe if I stir it into some yogurt....

My cousin has some of her Cystic Fibrosis medicine in yoghurt or chocolate dessert things.

[edith]

Kalina- you've not put up the "thread starter" post. :sad:

[C_ris]

& Crispy needs to be more fluffy


*fluffs self*

[C_ris]

Can I get back to you on that?

No.

[Bamy]

:yawn:

[Kath]

Is there a link somewhere where I can read about this??



Why, yes. Yes, there is. (http://www.watfordconservatives.co.uk/downloads/InTouch_Leavesden_FebMar08.pdf)

[C_ris]

Why, yes. Yes, there is. (http://www.watfordconservatives.co.uk/downloads/InTouch_Leavesden_FebMar08.pdf)

:yes:

I've got another leaflet that I've been delivering too, but they haven't got that one online yet :roll:

The election is Thursday! :eepfaint:

[Jax]

In other news: Almost down to a month and a half! :woohoo::sad: Yeah. :sigh:

[edith]

:sad: Yeah. :sigh:

:hugs:

[edith]

:yes:

I've got another leaflet that I've been delivering too, but they haven't got that one online yet :roll:

The election is Thursday! :eepfaint:

good luck.

(not that I'd ever support the Conservatives, but atm I'm annoyed with the whole world)

[edith]

I hate waiting for emails!

[Kath]

That statement ignored several key factors that show how this planet can NOT become another Venus through current human activity: Venus has no oceans to absorb excess CO2, the atmosphere is 90x denser than Earth's, and the biggest factor--the fact that Venus has an atmosphere with large concentrations of highly reactive sulfuric acid in its atmosphere!

...

Now we go back to Venus: What process can possibly be keeping its atmosphere so filled with highly reactive sulfuric acid, and at the same time be responsible for so much CO2 there? Something has to be replenishing the sulfuric acid. Answer: only ONE known thing--intense, planet-wide volcanism. Except we don't see any active volcanoes on Venus!


Wrong.

Our knowledge of Venus's lower atmosphere used to be pretty sketchy (understandably, given the environment), but it's improving a lot these days. There's a pretty good alternative for the presence of sulfuric acid droplets in the upper atmosphere - photo-dissociation of sulphur dioxide, which then reacts with the water vapour. It's a lot simpler than invoking surface volcanism that doesn't exist.

As for the atmosphere - CO is the most common molecule in the universe after H2. A CO2 atmosphere is really more plausible than a N2 atmosphere for terrestrial planets. Venus is primarily CO2, with 3.4% N2 and 0.1% SO2 near the surface - the sulfur really isn't a scarily large constituent at all, just like water vapour in Earth's atmosphere. In the middle atmosphere, photochemistry kicks in on top of the thermochemistry, and converts the SO2 and some of the CO2 to sulphuric acid very efficiently - but note, it'll only remove a tiny fraction of the CO2. There's NO discrepancy at all in having H2SO4 clouds in a CO2 atmosphere.


Occam's bleeding razor, Ryuu.

Your argument has non-existent volcanism.

Mine has peer reviewed articles in the recent literature, well-understood laboratory chemistry, basic planetary atmospheric chemical compositions and the Sun.

[edith]

Wrong.

Our knowledge of Venus's lower atmosphere used to be pretty sketchy (understandably, given the environment), but it's improving a lot these days. There's a pretty good alternative for the presence of sulfuric acid droplets in the upper atmosphere - photo-dissociation of sulphur dioxide, which then reacts with the water vapour. It's a lot simpler than invoking surface volcanism that doesn't exist.

As for the atmosphere - CO is the most common molecule in the universe after H2. A CO2 atmosphere is really more plausible than a N2 atmosphere for terrestrial planets. Venus is primarily CO2, with 3.4% N2 and 0.1% SO2 near the surface - the sulfur really isn't a scarily large constituent at all, just like water vapour in Earth's atmosphere. In the middle atmosphere, photochemistry kicks in on top of the thermochemistry, and converts the SO2 and some of the CO2 to sulphuric acid very efficiently - but note, it'll only remove a tiny fraction of the CO2. There's NO discrepancy at all in having H2SO4 clouds in a CO2 atmosphere.


Occam's bleeding razor, Ryuu.

Your argument has non-existent volcanism.

Mine has peer reviewed articles in the recent literature, well-understood laboratory chemistry, basic planetary atmospheric chemical compositions and the Sun.

I knew there was something wrong :)
but I am currently overloaded with papers on nanoparticles and files that take ages to save!

[Kath]

I knew there was something wrong :)
but I am currently overloaded with papers on nanoparticles and files that take ages to save!

Five minutes with ADS before starting work - it's nice to check out the literature in other people's fields sometimes.

[Bamy]

Good luck (also not a conservative person) but then again I think all the parties are crap at the mo.

[C_ris]

good luck.

(not that I'd ever support the Conservatives, but atm I'm annoyed with the whole world)

The choice is, though, more Labour or to give the Conservatives a go...

And thanks! :D Not that I have much chance, anyway.

[Bamy]

Wrong.

Our knowledge of Venus's lower atmosphere used to be pretty sketchy (understandably, given the environment), but it's improving a lot these days. There's a pretty good alternative for the presence of sulfuric acid droplets in the upper atmosphere - photo-dissociation of sulphur dioxide, which then reacts with the water vapour. It's a lot simpler than invoking surface volcanism that doesn't exist.

As for the atmosphere - CO is the most common molecule in the universe after H2. A CO2 atmosphere is really more plausible than a N2 atmosphere for terrestrial planets. Venus is primarily CO2, with 3.4% N2 and 0.1% SO2 near the surface - the sulfur really isn't a scarily large constituent at all, just like water vapour in Earth's atmosphere. In the middle atmosphere, photochemistry kicks in on top of the thermochemistry, and converts the SO2 and some of the CO2 to sulphuric acid very efficiently - but note, it'll only remove a tiny fraction of the CO2. There's NO discrepancy at all in having H2SO4 clouds in a CO2 atmosphere.


Occam's bleeding razor, Ryuu.

Your argument has non-existent volcanism.

Mine has peer reviewed articles in the recent literature, well-understood laboratory chemistry, basic planetary atmospheric chemical compositions and the Sun.
I couldn't have put it better myself (but then the module on planetary geology was in my first year.)

[edith]

Five minutes with ADS before starting work - it's nice to check out the literature in other people's fields sometimes.

I do when I can, which is why I try to read New Scientist and PhysicsWorld cover to cover, but I'm trying to understand a new discovery (:D) (well it's an insignificant little discovery, but it's new al the same) at the moment and it's hurting my brain :(

[edith]

I was allowing 50 pages for my project- I have a feeling it'll be nearer 75 :faint:
I have at least 30 pages of spectra to discuss (1 per page as 2 won't fit)

[edith]

right... I'm going to move into lab for a few hours.

[Faren]

:yes:

I've got another leaflet that I've been delivering too, but they haven't got that one online yet :roll:

The election is Thursday! :eepfaint:

Well best of luck to you!! :good:

[Faren]

:sad: Yeah. :sigh:

:group:

[Faren]

:group: top!

[Bamy]

:wave:

[Bamy]

I haz shoes :D

[Bamy]

Went on a little spending spree about a week ago and bought two pairs that arrive today :D

[Bamy]

Also started on 'Off Armageddon Reef' today. It looks like a very good read :yes:

[Bamy]

Mahnetics Chapter complete, now just the Discussion and conclusions to write :D

[Annadel]

I lucked out this morning.

Boo's been demanding to play with my keys in the car the past few days. I have several different key rings on one big master loop, so I just take my car keyring off the master loop and hand her the rest. Well, one day off schedule after a particularly rough night, and we got locked out. (I had my car keys in my purse obviously, or we wouldn't have gotten anywhere, but the house key was still on the master loop, which was laying on the hall dresser inside the locked house.) Luckily we'd gotten home before our neighbor, who just so happens to be the landlord's brother, left for work, and he has a spare key.

Happily this is the last field trip of the year, so there shouldn't be anymore need to get there thirty minutes earlier than normal again.

[Bamy]

:hugs:

[Annadel]

Anyone have any other ideas for getting a toddler to take their meds? I've tried the dropper, and after Mom accidentally shot Boo's entire dose of allergy medicine down her throat in less than a second last week when she hit the release just a tad too hard, Boo now freaks upon merely seeing the thing. The yogurt wasn't much better. She's getting into that hyper independent stage where it's, "I'll feed myself or starve," and she was more interested in playing with it than eating. Even when she's hungry, she still hasn't completely mastered the art of using a spoon since she keeps turning it sideways or upside down right before she gets to her mouth. We now have yogurt mixed with amoxil stained shirts and carpet because she's recently taken to spitting anything out if you dare try to help her get it to her mouth. And it looks like drinking is beginning to become painful because she's refusing to drink pretty much anything, be it milk or juice, mixed with medcine or not, and whether it's in a sippy cup, sports bottle, or valveless sippy cup. (The valveless cup just ended up being dumped over everything because we're just starting to try with those, and she's not so good with them yet.)

I'm down to calling the doctor if I can't get her to take her medicine within the next couple of hours to see if they have a suppository or injection they can do instead of three doses of liquid medicine, one of them rather huge, twice a day between her antibiotic, decongestant, and Tylenol. I really, really don't want to because I know it's going to do nothing but make her doctor phobia worse, but her ear drum is already bulging. She needs her meds now.

[murphy]

Also started on 'Off Armageddon Reef' today. It looks like a very good read :yes:

Hey, Bamy check this (http://search.barnesandnoble.com/By-Schism-Rent-Asunder/David-Weber/e/9780765315014/?itm=2) out.

[C_ris]

sex sex sex sex sex.

[Bamy]

Hey, Bamy check this (http://search.barnesandnoble.com/By-Schism-Rent-Asunder/David-Weber/e/9780765315014/?itm=2) out.
will look into it when I get time.

[Milo]

sex sex sex sex sex.

One of those "if you say it enough times it might come true" things?

[C_ris]

One of those "if you say it enough times it might come true" things?

One of those "I'm bored, what will encourage people to post?" things.

[Mayhem]

One of those "if you say it enough times it might come true" things?

*Cokescreen*

[Mayhem]

Anyone have any other ideas for getting a toddler to take their meds?

I am in NO way comparing your daughter to a rat, but when we have problems with meds and rats who are too intelligent to take meds from a syringe, sometimes squirting em into a little bit of cake works wonders! I know we tried it with Beth after three days of wasting meds and she crammed it in. Only a wee bit tho, enough to hide it.

Other than that I'm no use, cos wrapping a kid in a towel, having someone grip firmly round the neck and squirting the meds in before rubbing the throat to promote swallowing isn't really child friendly...
If she won't take the meds they'll prolly suggest IV meds, I know Aaron had that when he was too sore to swallow, he was in for two days.

[Annadel]

I am in NO way comparing your daughter to a rat, but when we have problems with meds and rats who are too intelligent to take meds from a syringe, sometimes squirting em into a little bit of cake works wonders! I know we tried it with Beth after three days of wasting meds and she crammed it in. Only a wee bit tho, enough to hide it.

Other than that I'm no use, cos wrapping a kid in a towel, having someone grip firmly round the neck and squirting the meds in before rubbing the throat to promote swallowing isn't really child friendly...
If she won't take the meds they'll prolly suggest IV meds, I know Aaron had that when he was too sore to swallow, he was in for two days.

Thanks for the suggestion. I guess I could give cake a try, but 6 mL seems like a lot to try to hide in cake. It's too bad ice cream ends up the same way yogurt does, because that seems like it might be easier.

I don't want to have to do a shot, but I'd much prefer that to IV meds. There's no way we could afford a hospital bill right now with the one from January's seizure, four doctor's visits, and our life insurance hitting all in the same month. Well, not unless I luck out, the former coworkers take pity on me and not only show up but say something about my party/website on-air, and I end up selling a thousand or so dollars worth of books at this week's party. ....That would take care of one bill anyway if I put all of next week's commission toward taxes.

Just 3 1/2 weeks left. Just 3 1/2 weeks left. Just 3 1/2 weeks left.

Surely things will look up this summer when we're not virtually making a second rent payment in our gas bill.

At least I did manage to get 3/4 of a dose down her, heavily mixed with apple juice, when given the choice between drinking the blasted juice or going back to the doctor.

[edith]

:hugs: Annadel

[Annadel]

*Cokescreen*

I kind of had this reaction as well, but I had to smother it since talking, laughing, and swallowing all currently hurt horribly.

Don't worry. I'm in my haz-mat suit. Besides, sinus/ear infections are rarely contagious.

[Annadel]

:hugs: Annadel

Thanks.

[Bamy]

:hugs: my sympathies.

[Annadel]

What for lunch? Hmmmm.....

Boo's decongestant kicked in while she was still sitting in my lap and sipping at her medicine laden juice, so she's zonked out on the couch. She probably will be for the next three to four hours, which is good because she really needs the sleep.

I think I'll take advantage and grab a nap after I eat since Dad's going to want to keep her for a bit tomorrow before leaving for an eight month job on the far coast, and I can do the pre home show cleaning then.

[edith]

I feel bleh.

Yesterday kicked me into a low mood and I can't get out of it.

:sigh:

[Annadel]

:choc: ?

[Annadel]

Hmm... Toph has an extra lunch thanks to this field trip today.

Chili or something cold? I think chili.

[Bronze-Dragonrider]

Wrong.

Our knowledge of Venus's lower atmosphere used to be pretty sketchy (understandably, given the environment), but it's improving a lot these days. There's a pretty good alternative for the presence of sulfuric acid droplets in the upper atmosphere - photo-dissociation of sulphur dioxide, which then reacts with the water vapour. It's a lot simpler than invoking surface volcanism that doesn't exist.

As for the atmosphere - CO is the most common molecule in the universe after H2. A CO2 atmosphere is really more plausible than a N2 atmosphere for terrestrial planets. Venus is primarily CO2, with 3.4% N2 and 0.1% SO2 near the surface - the sulfur really isn't a scarily large constituent at all, just like water vapour in Earth's atmosphere. In the middle atmosphere, photochemistry kicks in on top of the thermochemistry, and converts the SO2 and some of the CO2 to sulphuric acid very efficiently - but note, it'll only remove a tiny fraction of the CO2. There's NO discrepancy at all in having H2SO4 clouds in a CO2 atmosphere.


Occam's bleeding razor, Ryuu.

Your argument has non-existent volcanism.

Mine has peer reviewed articles in the recent literature, well-understood laboratory chemistry, basic planetary atmospheric chemical compositions and the Sun.
...


wot she sed.

I think :erm:

[edith]

:choc: ?

thanks

[Bronze-Dragonrider]

sex sex sex sex sex.

Been there, done that :whistle:

[Bronze-Dragonrider]

One of those "if you say it enough times it might come true" things?
:rofl:

[Weyrwoman Kalina]

:rofl2:

I agree.

Best. Batman. Line. EVER! (http://www.superdickery.com/oneshot/45.html):laugh:

:laugh:

*fluffs self*

:rofl2:

:sad: Yeah. :sigh:

Something happens for you then, too? :hugs:

[C_ris]

:rofl2:


Did not werk an i is not fluffy? :(

[Weyrwoman Kalina]

sex sex sex sex sex.

:noface:

One of those "if you say it enough times it might come true" things?

One of those "I'm bored, what will encourage people to post?" things.

*Cokescreen*

:laugh:

Been there, done that :whistle:

:angel:

[Weyrwoman Kalina]

Did not werk an i is not fluffy? :(

I was very curious how you'd react to the new rule. ;)

It amused me. :biggrin:

[C_ris]

I was very curious how you'd react to the new rule. ;)

It amused me. :biggrin:

Den i is fluffy nao? :puppyeyes

[Bronze-Dragonrider]

*peeks in*

[C_ris]

*peeks in*

*peeks out*

[Annadel]

Sleep time now, I think. Maybe I can get an hour before having to head back to the doctor's office for Boo's shot.

See you in a few hours. :wave:

[Weyrwoman Kalina]

*peeks in*

BRONZIE!!!!! :powerglomp: :kiss:

[Milo]

:yawn:

I am so tired.

[Weyrwoman Kalina]

Den i is fluffy nao? :puppyeyes

Yes.

http://www.hedweb.com/fluffy.jpg

[C_ris]

Yes.

http://www.hedweb.com/fluffy.jpg

:woohoo:

[Weyrwoman Kalina]

:biggrin:

[Bronze-Dragonrider]

BRONZIE!!!!! :powerglomp: :kiss:

:eepfaint:

[Bronze-Dragonrider]

Yes.

http://www.hedweb.com/fluffy.jpg

:rofl: :haha2: :rofl2: :laugh: :shriek:

[C_ris]

*iz fluffy*

[Bronze-Dragonrider]

*tosses you in the dryer to make you super-fluffy*

[Jax]

Something happens for you then, too? :hugs:Uuuuuh yah...

[Mayhem]

http://beaverplant.co.uk/

A friend's hubby is working on this website.

Scroll down and look at the very bottom left for the company motto.

DO NOT DRINK OR EAT WHILST DOING SO!

[cosmic dancer]

:wave: I'm around ... sorta ...

[Bronze-Dragonrider]

*snicker*

[C_ris]

*tosses you in the dryer to make you super-fluffy*

*comes out all frizzy* :irked:

:shakefist

[edith]

http://beaverplant.co.uk/

A friend's hubby is working on this website.

Scroll down and look at the very bottom left for the company motto.

DO NOT DRINK OR EAT WHILST DOING SO!

I'll look now! edit- oh dear...

:wave: I'm around ... sorta ...

:wave:

[edith]

I've got Mitch Benn's Music Show on the radio and a song called "I don't want to go to Toronto"

[celticdragonsong]

Okay, Joke time:

Scotch with two drops of water.

A lady goes to the bar on a cruise ship and orders a Scotch with two drops of water. As the bartender gives her the drink she says,


'I'm on this cruise to celebrate my 80th birthday and it's
today...'

The bartender says, 'Well, since it's your birthday, I'll buy you a drink. In fact, this one is on me.'

As the woman finishes her drink, the woman to her right says, 'I would like to buy you a drink, too.'

The old woman says, 'Thank you. Bartender, I want a Scotch with two drops of water.'

'Coming up,' says the bartender

As she finishes that drink, the man to her left says, 'I would like to buy you one, too.'

The old woman says, 'Thank you. Bartender, I want another Scotch with two drops of water.'
'Coming right up,' the bartender says.

As he gives her the drink, he says, 'Ma'am, I'm dying of curiosity. Why the Scotch with only two drops of water?'

The old woman replies, 'Sonny, when you're my age, you've learned how to hold your liquor. Holding your water, however, is a whole other issue.'



'OLD' IS WHEN...
Your sweetie says, 'Let's go upstairs
and make love,' and you answer,
'Pick one; I can't do both!'


'OLD' IS WHEN...
Your friends compliment you
on your new alligator shoes
and you're barefoot.


'OLD' IS WHEN...
A sexy babe catches your fancy
and your pacemaker opens the garage door,

'OLD' IS WHEN...
Going braless
pulls all the wrinkles out of your face.

'OLD' IS WHEN...
You don't care where your spouse goes,
just as long as you don't have to go along.

'OLD' IS WHEN...
You are cautioned to slow down by the doctor instead of by
the police

'OLD' IS WHEN...
'Getting a little action'
means you don't need to take any fiber today.

'OLD' IS WHEN...
'Getting lucky' means you find your car
in the parking lot.

'OLD' IS WHEN...
An 'all nighter' means not getting up
to use the bathroom.

AND

'OLD' IS WHEN...
You are not sure these are jokes?

[celticdragonsong]

BTW :wave:

And it's time for me to :runaway:

[Bronze-Dragonrider]

*comes out all frizzy* :irked:

:shakefist

:giggle:

[Bronze-Dragonrider]

I really shouldn't be looking through Ebay :doh:

[cosmic dancer]

I'm standing as a candidate in the local elections ;)

Good luck :)

Why oh why do I work better late at night? :roll: I have gotten more done in the past 2 hours than I have done all day!

I'm rarely able to do that, I'm half falling asleep at the mo as I type :roll:

My Desk....

it actually looks.....

Tidy! :faint:

:eepfaint: Is that allowed?!

[Weyrwoman Kalina]

:eepfaint:

:giggle: :angel:

:rofl: :haha2: :rofl2: :laugh: :shriek:


:biggrin:

*iz fluffy*

*tosses you in the dryer to make you super-fluffy*

:laugh:

Uuuuuh yah...

*reads PM*

Ah... :hugs:

http://beaverplant.co.uk/

A friend's hubby is working on this website.

Scroll down and look at the very bottom left for the company motto.

DO NOT DRINK OR EAT WHILST DOING SO!


:laugh:

[cosmic dancer]

:yes:

I've got another leaflet that I've been delivering too, but they haven't got that one online yet :roll:

The election is Thursday! :eepfaint:

You will link us to it when it is I hope. This makes more sense of all the leaflets you've been delivering :yes:

I'm guessing you've booked Friday off work. Election counts usually run late I think.

:sad: Yeah. :sigh:

:tighthug:

I do when I can, which is why I try to read New Scientist and PhysicsWorld cover to cover, but I'm trying to understand a new discovery (:D) (well it's an insignificant little discovery, but it's new al the same) at the moment and it's hurting my brain :(

Having a new discovery to understand must be really awesome! :cool:

I was allowing 50 pages for my project- I have a feeling it'll be nearer 75 :faint:
I have at least 30 pages of spectra to discuss (1 per page as 2 won't fit)

Are you word limited?

[edith]

Having a new discovery to understand must be really awesome! :cool:



Are you word limited?

yep! A little frustrating!

yeah- 8k.

So far I have 1500 words and 25 pages!

[cosmic dancer]

I haz shoes :D

I think I need more shoes. My favourite dirt cheap (less than £10) shoes that have lasted about 5 years have finally fallen apart and are damaged beyond repair :( No other shoes match them for comfort :(

Mahnetics Chapter complete, now just the Discussion and conclusions to write :D

Well done! :D

*snips*
I'm down to calling the doctor if I can't get her to take her medicine within the next couple of hours to see if they have a suppository or injection they can do instead of three doses of liquid medicine, one of them rather huge, twice a day between her antibiotic, decongestant, and Tylenol. I really, really don't want to because I know it's going to do nothing but make her doctor phobia worse, but her ear drum is already bulging. She needs her meds now.

Poor Boo :hugs:

*snips*
Just 3 1/2 weeks left. Just 3 1/2 weeks left. Just 3 1/2 weeks left.

Surely things will look up this summer when we're not virtually making a second rent payment in our gas bill.

At least I did manage to get 3/4 of a dose down her, heavily mixed with apple juice, when given the choice between drinking the blasted juice or going back to the doctor.

3 1/2 weeks till Toph's school year ends?

Hopefully it will :hugs:

That could work if she is older enough to understand and dislikes Doctors already.

[Weyrwoman Kalina]

I really shouldn't be looking through Ebay :doh:

:evil:

[cosmic dancer]

I feel bleh.

Yesterday kicked me into a low mood and I can't get out of it.

:sigh:

Oh dear :hugs: Can we help?

Den i is fluffy nao? :puppyeyes

:yes: You is cute and fluffy :heart:

:yawn:

I am so tired.

Me too, not convinced I should be when it's only just gone 8.30pm though ... :yawn:

[cosmic dancer]

*tosses you in the dryer to make you super-fluffy*

:giggle:

http://beaverplant.co.uk/

A friend's hubby is working on this website.

Scroll down and look at the very bottom left for the company motto.

DO NOT DRINK OR EAT WHILST DOING SO!

:rofl2:

*comes out all frizzy* :irked:

:shakefist

:laugh: Sorry, but the afro look does not suit you!

:wave:

Hi Edi :)

[cosmic dancer]

Okay, Joke time:
*snips*

The first one made me :giggle:

The second one confused my poor tired brain :help:

[edith]

Oh dear :hugs: Can we help?




Amazing Maurice cheered me up a bit

[C_ris]

You will link us to it when it is I hope. This makes more sense of all the leaflets you've been delivering :yes:

I'm guessing you've booked Friday off work. Election counts usually run late I think.



Nope, still working Friday!

[C_ris]

:yes: You is cute and fluffy :heart:


:biggrin:

[cosmic dancer]

yep! A little frustrating!

yeah- 8k.

So far I have 1500 words and 25 pages!

Sounds like you are doing well and will present them with a small book!

[edith]

Sounds like you are doing well and will present them with a small book!

:giggle:

[cosmic dancer]

Amazing Maurice cheered me up a bit

That's good :)

Nope, still working Friday!

You are going to be a bit exhausted I think! I'm sure you are hoping for exhausted but very happy :yes:

[cosmic dancer]

I'm shattered, think I'm going to head to bed now :wave:

:sleep2:

[Milo]

I really shouldn't be looking through Ebay :doh:

Bad doggy no biscuit!

[Bronze-Dragonrider]

Bad doggy no biscuit!

Nope, no biscuit, but yes, Spider-Man blu ray trilogy! :evil:

[Weyrwoman Kalina]

Nope, no biscuit, but yes, Spider-Man blu ray trilogy! :evil:

:biggrin: :angel:




Hey... didja get my, er, last (2) PMs? :giggle:

[Bronze-Dragonrider]

:biggrin: :angel:




Hey... didja get my, er, last (2) PMs? :giggle:

Yup, but my inbox is almost full again :tantrum:

[Weyrwoman Kalina]

Yup, but my inbox is almost full again :tantrum:

Did you delete the ones I sent you copies of yet? Yah know, I downloaded teh text versions and organized them, then sent them to you? ;)

[Bronze-Dragonrider]

Did you delete the ones I sent you copies of yet? Yah know, I downloaded teh text versions and organized them, then sent them to you? ;)

D'oh :roll:

[Weyrwoman Kalina]

D'oh :roll:

:patpat: :giggle:

[murphy]

Okay, Joke time:

Scotch with two drops of water.

A lady goes to the bar on a cruise ship and orders a Scotch with two drops of water. As the bartender gives her the drink she says,


'I'm on this cruise to celebrate my 80th birthday and it's
today...'

The bartender says, 'Well, since it's your birthday, I'll buy you a drink. In fact, this one is on me.'

As the woman finishes her drink, the woman to her right says, 'I would like to buy you a drink, too.'

The old woman says, 'Thank you. Bartender, I want a Scotch with two drops of water.'

'Coming up,' says the bartender

As she finishes that drink, the man to her left says, 'I would like to buy you one, too.'

The old woman says, 'Thank you. Bartender, I want another Scotch with two drops of water.'
'Coming right up,' the bartender says.

As he gives her the drink, he says, 'Ma'am, I'm dying of curiosity. Why the Scotch with only two drops of water?'

The old woman replies, 'Sonny, when you're my age, you've learned how to hold your liquor. Holding your water, however, is a whole other issue.'



'OLD' IS WHEN...
Your sweetie says, 'Let's go upstairs
and make love,' and you answer,
'Pick one; I can't do both!'


'OLD' IS WHEN...
Your friends compliment you
on your new alligator shoes
and you're barefoot.


'OLD' IS WHEN...
A sexy babe catches your fancy
and your pacemaker opens the garage door,

'OLD' IS WHEN...
Going braless
pulls all the wrinkles out of your face.

'OLD' IS WHEN...
You don't care where your spouse goes,
just as long as you don't have to go along.

'OLD' IS WHEN...
You are cautioned to slow down by the doctor instead of by
the police

'OLD' IS WHEN...
'Getting a little action'
means you don't need to take any fiber today.

'OLD' IS WHEN...
'Getting lucky' means you find your car
in the parking lot.

'OLD' IS WHEN...
An 'all nighter' means not getting up
to use the bathroom.

AND

'OLD' IS WHEN...
You are not sure these are jokes?


:rofl2:

[Weyrwoman Kalina]

:erm: I feel strange...

[Bamy]

I'm rarely able to do that, I'm half falling asleep at the mo as I type :roll:

:eepfaint: Is that allowed?!I am a night owl :angel:

:erm: the powers of procrastination are a wonderful thing!

I think I need more shoes. My favourite dirt cheap (less than £10) shoes that have lasted about 5 years have finally fallen apart and are damaged beyond repair :( No other shoes match them for comfort :(

I hate it when a fave pair of shoes fall apart. But I ht tube laces more. Whoever designed then should be publiclly hung, drawn and quartered. I have never had to tie laces up so often since these dammned laces became popular :irked:

[Bamy]

I have jus been looking at my shiney noo Mnopoly board (New UK edition with Keele and Stoke on it) Anyone up for a game of virtual monopoly? it shouldn't be too dificult to keep financial etc records.

[edith]

I hate it when a fave pair of shoes fall apart. But I ht tube laces more. Whoever designed then should be publiclly hung, drawn and quartered. I have never had to tie laces up so often since these dammned laces became popular :irked:

My laces are constantly coming undone and they are meant to be walking shoes! :roll:

[Bamy]

and could be exceedingly fun.

[Bamy]

My laces are constantly coming undone and they are meant to be walking shoes! :roll:
Ditto!

[edith]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7372883.stm

very close to where I'm from!

[C_ris]

I have jus been looking at my shiney noo Mnopoly board (New UK edition with Keele and Stoke on it) Anyone up for a game of virtual monopoly? it shouldn't be too dificult to keep financial etc records.

Me, me!

[Bamy]

anyone else? there are still 4 tokens left up for grabs!

[celticdragonsong]

Okay, doing a quick :runaway: through :spam:

[Annadel]

Poor Boo :hugs:



3 1/2 weeks till Toph's school year ends?

Hopefully it will :hugs:

That could work if she is older enough to understand and dislikes Doctors already.

Yep, 3 1/2 weeks left in the school year in the system Toph works in. They get out on the 23rd with the 24th as a teacher workday.

She ended up needing an injection to make sure she gets the full amount of antibiotic needed. Poor thing fell asleep in the middle of the floor directly after supper, so we put her to bed early. The extra sleep should help, and it seems like the Motrin was working on the fever and pain from ear and injection both.

Toph and I may head to bed early tonight ourselves. I'm fighting an ear infection, and the field trip left him with a bad headache. Plus, sleep is just helpful anyway.

Night all.

[Milo]

anyone else? there are still 4 tokens left up for grabs!

:no:

Sorry. I detest monopoly.

[Kathryn Draconna]

:lurk:

[mawofone]

I love monoply.
I would love to have the money to collect monoply games. Right now the game I realy want is a make it you self monopoly game. You design & print out how you want the game. I would make up a Pern one if I got one.

[Samarra]

anyone else? there are still 4 tokens left up for grabs!
Only if I can be the little doggy!

I love monoply.
I would love to have the money to collect monoply games. Right now the game I realy want is a make it you self monopoly game. You design & print out how you want the game. I would make up a Pern one if I got one.
OOOhh that'd be fun.

[Weyrwoman Kalina]

:lurk:

[Milo]

Homewurks: DO NOT WANT.

[Samarra]

Doooooooooo it.

[Kathryn Draconna]

:lurk:

[Milo]

Doooooooooo it.

I am. :ouch:

[Samarra]

Aww.

[Weyrwoman Kalina]

:patpat:

[Kathryn Draconna]

*fills a pool full of ice water*

[Milo]

That's one paper done!

[Faren]

Anyone have any other ideas for getting a toddler to take their meds? *snip*.

http://www.babycenter.com/0_parents-say-making-the-medicine-go-down_12157.bc

There's some good advise there. I was very lucky and had pretty healthy kids. I think John has been on antibiotics maybe 3 times in his life (he's 16)...Lara maybe once, and the Eldest a few times too. I think we did actually have to hold one of them down to make them take their medicine. It wasn't pretty or fun, but it had to be done. :sad:

If worse comes to worst, she may have to have an injection. I hope when I finish ketchup that you've had success. :group:

[Faren]

sex sex sex sex sex.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Faren]

One of those "if you say it enough times it might come true" things?

:haha2:

[Faren]

I feel bleh.

Yesterday kicked me into a low mood and I can't get out of it.

:sigh:

:group:

[Faren]

Den i is fluffy nao? :puppyeyes

*admires the fluffiness*

[Faren]

Yes.

http://www.hedweb.com/fluffy.jpg

Ultra cute!! :heart:

[Faren]

Yep, 3 1/2 weeks left in the school year in the system Toph works in. They get out on the 23rd with the 24th as a teacher workday.

She ended up needing an injection to make sure she gets the full amount of antibiotic needed. Poor thing fell asleep in the middle of the floor directly after supper, so we put her to bed early. The extra sleep should help, and it seems like the Motrin was working on the fever and pain from ear and injection both.

Toph and I may head to bed early tonight ourselves. I'm fighting an ear infection, and the field trip left him with a bad headache. Plus, sleep is just helpful anyway.

Night all.

:group: Probably for the best to get the shot.

[Faren]

:no:

Sorry. I detest monopoly.

Me too. :sad:

[Faren]

That's one paper done!

:applause:

[Faren]

And I am ketched. :ok:

[Fabe]

:no:

Sorry. I detest monopoly.

I can understand I use to play monopoly once in a blue moon but after playing games like Descent, Memoir 44, Arkham Horror ,Power Grid and Shadows over Camelot the old roll and move type games just aren't as enjoyable.

[Faren]

They had a band concert at school last night. Starting with the six-grade band and going up to the high school.

6th grade was pretty awful, but it got much better as the night went on. I wish I could've stayed for the whole thing, but had to go home and get ready for w**k.

[Faren]

:wave: Fabe

[Faren]

Trying to get a headache. :banghead:

[Faren]

Had my yearly evaluation here at w**k yesterday. It was all good. :biggrin:

I can haz raiz naow?

[Faren]

Where mah spammerz at?? :tapfoot:

[Faren]

You're all talking on MSN. I know it. :tears:

[Faren]

Next week is the Eldest's last week of classes. Then he has a week of exams.

This year has flown by.

[Faren]

Shit. I forgot to bring the stupid announcements to w**k so I could finish them. :banghead:

[mawofone]

I wnat to be the boot in monopoly

[mawofone]

I am not on MSN.

[Faren]

I wnat to be the boot in monopoly

You want to get the boot? :erm:

;)

[Faren]

I am not on MSN.

Neither am I. Because I'm at w**k.

[mawofone]

You Funny.

[mawofone]

I do not have it.

[Faren]

You Funny.

:biggrin: :wekiss:

[Faren]

I guess I'd better get some of that w**k done. :wave:

[mawofone]

Shoot I have to go Mom is calling. After I get her settled Im off to bed. GOOD NIGHT!
if you get bord then you can always spree. Have fun.

[Milo]

Where mah spammerz at?? :tapfoot:

Wurkin 2.

[Weyrwoman Kalina]

Ultra cute!! :heart:

:wub:

Trying to get a headache. :banghead:

Why would you try to get a headache? :erm: :shake:

Had my yearly evaluation here at w**k yesterday. It was all good. :biggrin:

I can haz raiz naow?

:D

Where mah spammerz at?? :tapfoot:

You're all talking on MSN. I know it. :tears:

Nope... I was posting an interesting discussion in the lounge.


EVERYONE GO LOOK!

:angel:

[Ryuu]

Sorry, but I can't let this die....


Wrong.

Our knowledge of Venus's lower atmosphere used to be pretty sketchy (understandably, given the environment), but it's improving a lot these days. There's a pretty good alternative for the presence of sulfuric acid droplets in the upper atmosphere - photo-dissociation of sulphur dioxide, which then reacts with the water vapour. It's a lot simpler than invoking surface volcanism that doesn't exist.

As for the atmosphere - CO is the most common molecule in the universe after H2. A CO2 atmosphere is really more plausible than a N2 atmosphere for terrestrial planets. Venus is primarily CO2, with 3.4% N2 and 0.1% SO2 near the surface - the sulfur really isn't a scarily large constituent at all, just like water vapour in Earth's atmosphere. In the middle atmosphere, photochemistry kicks in on top of the thermochemistry, and converts the SO2 and some of the CO2 to sulphuric acid very efficiently - but note, it'll only remove a tiny fraction of the CO2. There's NO discrepancy at all in having H2SO4 clouds in a CO2 atmosphere.

Occam's bleeding razor, Ryuu.

Your argument has non-existent volcanism.

Mine has peer reviewed articles in the recent literature, well-understood laboratory chemistry, basic planetary atmospheric chemical compositions and the Sun.three things--last one first.

#1: Evidently, they're (http://volcano.und.edu/vwdocs/planet_volcano/venus/intro.html) not so "non-existent" after all. Apparently, since Magellan, Venus has gone from "no volcanoes" to 1600+, which is exactly what should be there had such a collision happened!

#2: I never said there was a discrepancy in having a sulfuric acid clouds in a CO2 atmosphere--I was attempting to explain how Venus could have both sulfuric acid and such a dense atmosphere of CO2. What I DID say was there had to be some mechanism to replenish the highly reactive sulfuric acid. You point out sulfur dioxide, which only pushes the problem to ask "what replenishes the SO2?"--especially since numerous measurements from the space probes have shown the amounts of both H2SO4 and SO2 have declined then later were mysteriously replenished. Eruptions happening between probe visits fit that need quite nicely, thank you.

#3: About your own chemistry--for photochemistry to convert SO2 to be forming HSO4 in quanties, you have to have two very important things: Hydrogen (presumably from the sun), and a resuply route for your SO2....btw, sulfur dioxide is another biproduct of volcanic activity (http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1989LPICo.708....8E).

"In the middle atmosphere, photochemistry kicks in on top of the thermochemistry, and converts the SO2 and some of the CO2 to sulphuric acid very efficiently" -- in other words, you're saying "X(SO2) + Y(CO2) + energy = Z(H2SO4) + W(C-byproduct)"

Sorry, Kath, but you're getting a D- on the quiz for that one:shake:

But unless you can show that the Department of Geosciences at Oregon State University, JPL, or the people who developed their abstract (http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1989LPICo.708....8E) are less than reputable in the scientific community:shrug:

One last thing: I'm apparently not the only one (http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/080228-venus-collision.html) to come up with such a ****ed up idea as a "cataclysmic collision" to explain Venus' rotation and atmosphere. His paper was published just this last February and hasn't yet undergone a review of his peers.

[Fabe]

:wave: Fabe

:wave: Faren 'Hi'

[Weyrwoman Kalina]

:yawn:

I is tipsy.

I is also getting tired.:yawn:

[Weyrwoman Kalina]

I is having a good laugh at "The Force" being considered by ANYONE as a deity! :shake:


**see the thread in the lounge if you're curious ;)

[Faren]

I is having a good laugh at "The Force" being considered by ANYONE as a deity! :shake:


**see the thread in the lounge if you're curious ;)

I did. :shake:

[Faren]

Wurkin 2.

How's the homew**k going?

[Weyrwoman Kalina]

I did. :shake:

Ridiculous, ain't it. :roll:

But amusing as well. :noface:

[Weyrwoman Kalina]

Well, I guess my typing is keeping mom up, so I guess I'll be off. :wave:

[Faren]

Ridiculous, ain't it. :roll:

But amusing as well. :noface:

Well, I guess you could consider the Jedi and the Sith religious sects of a sort, but no the Force does not equal God.

However...God has the Force. :yes:

[Milo]

How's the homew**k going?

Not so bad.

[Milo]

My avatar is annoying me.

[Rabble]

*hums a Jefferson Airplane song*

[Milo]

*hums a Jefferson Airplane song*

:note: FEED YOUR HEAD :note:

[Rabble]

When logic and proportion
Have fallen sloppy dead
And the White Dragon is talking backwards
And the CavCat's "off with her head!"
Remember what the Woollymouse said:

[Rabble]

*takes to the new fallout shelter*

[Faren]

My avatar is annoying me.

It's not making me very happy either.

:noface:

[Faren]

When logic and proportion
Have fallen sloppy dead
And the White Dragon is talking backwards
And the CavCat's "off with her head!"
Remember what the Woollymouse said:

:cool:

:applause:

[Ryuu]

When logic and proportion
Have fallen sloppy dead
And the Gold Dragon is talking backwards
And the CavCat's "off with her head!"
Remember what the Woollymouse said::note:
SPAM is DED!
SPAM is DED!
SPAM is DE-E-E-E-E-ED!
:note:
**
~

intentionally misspelled "ded"

[Rabble]

:erm: Is you sure that's what the Woollymouse said? :suspic:

[Rabble]

and now for DOCTOR WHO!

:woohoo:

:tardis:

[Ryuu]

:erm: Is you sure that's what the Woollymouse said? :suspic::shhh:she was on some serious drugs at the time :yes:

[Ryuu]

Mushrooms:whistle:

[Ryuu]

speaking of which, it's time for me to go blac--er--enhance my revenue by promising not to reveal a bit of info on somebody to certain interested parties....:whistle:

:wave:

[Rabble]

WE need an Ood smiley! :puppyeyes

[Faren]

I am studying some stuff.

"Intervention Management Aiding Pharmacotherapy Resource Optimization"

Sounds pretty good, huh?

:giggle:

[Faren]

WE need an Ood smiley! :puppyeyes

Whozit?

[Faren]

I haz a marker!! :d

[Faren]

It is PINK!

[Faren]

Or I could use the ORANGE one.

[Faren]

Or even the PURPLE one.

[Faren]

It's about proper antibiotic selection and use.

Which is very important. :yes:

[C_ris]

Only if I can be the little doggy!



I wanna be the sports car!

[Jax]

Had my yearly evaluation here at w**k yesterday. It was all good. :biggrin:

I can haz raiz naow?:good: Maybe you could ask for the tv back?

[C_ris]

Sorry, Kath, but you're getting a D- on the quiz for that one:shake:


... Somehow, I doubt it.

[C_ris]

My avatar is annoying me.

Your avatar is annoying me.

[Faren]

:good: Maybe you could ask for the tv back?

I wish. :laugh:

[C_ris]

I haz a marker!! :d

It is PINK!

Or I could use the ORANGE one.

Or even the PURPLE one.

I haz a YELLOW and GREEN marker at werkz! :D

[Faren]

I haz a YELLOW and GREEN marker at werkz! :D

I iz highlightin my paperz. :yes:

[C_ris]

I iz highlightin my paperz. :yes:

im in ur office, highlightin ur paperz.

[Faren]

im in ur office, highlightin ur paperz.

:giggle:

[edith]

morning...
I suppose I need to start working

[Faren]

morning...
I suppose I need to start working

No not yet...spam a while. :yes:

[Kath]

Sorry, but I can't let this die....


three things--last one first.

#1: Evidently, they're (http://volcano.und.edu/vwdocs/planet_volcano/venus/intro.html) not so "non-existent" after all. Apparently, since Magellan, Venus has gone from "no volcanoes" to 1600+, which is exactly what should be there had such a collision happened!


Sheesh, Ryuu, I was merely using your OWN words in the counter-argument. If I can kill your argument with your own flawed logic, do I really need to lift a finger doing any more work?

Now we go back to Venus: What process can possibly be keeping its atmosphere so filled with highly reactive sulfuric acid, and at the same time be responsible for so much CO2 there? Something has to be replenishing the sulfuric acid. Answer: only ONE known thing--intense, planet-wide volcanism. Except we don't see any active volcanoes on Venus!

YOU were the one who claimed both the absence of volcanism and the need for it to be PLANET-WIDE. Yes, of course it's there - I'm not unaware of Magellan - but for you to simultaneously claim it to be on that scale and rule out in one breath.... Wow. That's a pretty spectacular failure for an argument, and all you can counter it with is missing the point of my hyperbole.

Weak, dude. Weak.


#2: I never said there was a discrepancy in having a sulfuric acid clouds in a CO2 atmosphere--I was attempting to explain how Venus could have both sulfuric acid and such a dense atmosphere of CO2. What I DID say was there had to be some mechanism to replenish the highly reactive sulfuric acid.


No, you said there was only ONE known mechanism, which is total bollocks. And then you handwaved Sagan and practically claimed that planetary scientists are ignoring decades-old theorising while twiddling their thumbs, which is an incredibly insulting thing to be doing. You know nothing at all about the scope of observations being made from the ground as well as from space - probes are fantastic and produce incredible results, but we don't just rest on our laurels and stick to one tool when we've got a whole range of others in our arsenal.

My gripe was with your seeming close-minded fanaticism and the ridiculousness of your argument, not with the mechanism itself.

You point out sulfur dioxide, which only pushes the problem to ask "what replenishes the SO2?"--especially since numerous measurements from the space probes have shown the amounts of both H2SO4 and SO2 have declined then later were mysteriously replenished. Eruptions happening between probe visits fit that need quite nicely, thank you.


As do the perfectly natural horizontal and vertical variations in H2SO4 humidity, which I almost mentioned in my previous post - Look at the state of H2O on Earth. Land a probe in Seattle and one in the Sahara, and just try and see how the volcanism argument, while plausible indeed certainly isn't the only mechanism for spatial and temporal variations.

As for what replenishes the SO2 - for heaven's sake, have you heard of the water cycle? The carbon cycle?

Well guess what? Venus has a sulfur cycle.

Yes, it has a geologic component to it, which will of course periodically insert new S into localised regions, but atmospheric chemistry plays the major role in balancing the different chemical species. Volcanism is the source, but chemistry is the supply-chain, supermarket and end consumer. Seriously, I don't have any problems with Venusian volcanology - just with the way you invoked it as both an unsolvable problem and the One! True! Way!


#3: About your own chemistry--for photochemistry to convert SO2 to be forming HSO4 in quanties, you have to have two very important things: Hydrogen (presumably from the sun),


WTF? What's wrong with good-old steam?

and a resuply route for your SO2

"In the middle atmosphere, photochemistry kicks in on top of the thermochemistry, and converts the SO2 and some of the CO2 to sulphuric acid very efficiently" -- in other words, you're saying "X(SO2) + Y(CO2) + energy = Z(H2SO4) + W(C-byproduct)"

Sorry, Kath, but you're getting a D- on the quiz for that one:shake:


No, I'm respecting the bulk of the spammers and not going into meaningless technical details. This isn't the place to reproduce rate equations for the whole gamut of chemical constituents, especially when all I was doing was addressing the link between two species with a third. If you've sufficient wits to spot the elemental hole, but insufficient wits to presume that I was iimplying a simplistic A+B=C[+D] reaction, then I truly, truly pity you.

But unless you can show that the Department of Geosciences at Oregon State University, JPL, or the people who developed their abstract (http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1989LPICo.708....8E) are less than reputable in the scientific community:shrug:

Wow. A paper with no obvious citations from 1989. You're hitting with the big boys now, Ryuu. Look, I'm going weak at the knees!

Seriously, I don't have a problem with their research, or any of the others. It's probably as valid as anything in that particular journal. The science you've attempted to convey in this post isn't completely adrift either, though your tone leaves a lot to be desired.


Also, if you're going to back-track on the facts of your arguments, I'd advise you to be a bit more honest, for your own sake. It's as transparent as vacuum, and while you may think you're clawing your way back onto solid ground, denying the flaws of your earlier posts makes you look like... well.
Others have said it far more eloquently than I could.


One last thing: I'm apparently not the only one (http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/080228-venus-collision.html) to come up with such a ****ed up idea as a "cataclysmic collision" to explain Venus' rotation and atmosphere.


No. Of course you're not. That's because you, me, next-door's puppy and Einstein's bacterial microbes are perfectly capable of drawing the same conclusion. Angular momentum doesn't just float off into the wide black yonder when it gets bored.


His paper was published just this last February and hasn't yet undergone a review of his peers.

The paper isn't a test of the original hypothesis - it's explaining the testability of his own particular model, and those of others working in the field. And it HAS been peer-reviewed, by simple virtue of the fact that it was already published in EPSL at the time of the article. Did you even bother to read the article you link to?


*sigh*


The next person I speak to better have a bit more of a clue than you, god help me.

[edith]

No not yet...spam a while. :yes:

I can't- I need to get my theory work done :(
though I sorted out a whole passage in bed last night and I remembered it this morning. I'm not good at diplomacy and I need to be for that passage :shake:

I'm having a shower first to wake me up :inshower:

[Kath]

I'm back in England. Yay!

[edith]

I'm back in England. Yay!

yay! :hugs:

[edith]

diplomacy---
I hate having to be polite about an imperfect model.
The guy didn't model the adsorbate and claims the chemical effect doesn't exist, when other papers provide evidence for it :no:

[Kath]

diplomacy---
I hate having to be polite about an imperfect model.
The guy didn't model the adsorbate and claims the chemical effect doesn't exist, when other papers provide evidence for it :no:

Oops.

[Faren]

I'm back in England. Yay!

:woohoo: How long?

[Kath]

:woohoo: How long?

Just a week. Jez's birthday today, and my cousin's wedding on saturday - this trip's been planned so long I was even able to get Lufthansa flights for only 66 quid!

Much better than Flybe. :yes:

[edith]

Oops.

even worse- it was a Faraday Letters special and the guy doing the concluding remarks agreed with him.

I didn't like the model when I was doing my diss, and now that I've spent several months doing practical work, I'm pretty certain that the chemistry is important in more ways than just a little bit of enhancement. :sigh: Well that's for my discussion :D

[edith]

Just a week. Jez's birthday today, and my cousin's wedding on saturday - this trip's been planned so long I was even able to get Lufthansa flights for only 66 quid!

Much better than Flybe. :yes:

:cool: Have fun :)

[Kath]

Edi! Have you seen the recent STFC articles yet?

Mason's been justifiably panned.

:evil:

[edith]

Edi! Have you seen the recent STFC articles yet?

Mason's been justifiably panned.

:evil:

nooo- some of my friends were at the conference in Belfast though. Dave said he was ridiculed there.

[Kath]

Oh, yes.

*watches and waits with barely concealed glee!*

[Bamy]

Only if I can be the little doggy!

OOOhh that'd be fun.
it's the new UK version, counters are: Burger, Skateboard, mobile phone, airplane, F1 racer (I guess Cris has taken this one), and a roller skate. I am taking the roler skate so the others are up for grabs.
I'm back in England. Yay!yays!

Just a week. Jez's birthday today, and my cousin's wedding on saturday - this trip's been planned so long I was even able to get Lufthansa flights for only 66 quid!

Much better than Flybe. :yes:
:cool:

[C_ris]

The next person I speak to better have a bit more of a clue than you, god help me.

*gets a magnifying glass and goes searching for a clue*

[edith]

Oh, yes.

*watches and waits with barely concealed glee!*

where'd I find them?

[C_ris]

I'm back in England. Yay!

:woohoo:

Just in time for the rain ;)

[Kath]

where'd I find them?

http://pacrowther.staff.shef.ac.uk/stfc.html

BBC news top article on the science section, plus the recent news links for other media on Paul's page.

[C_ris]

Oh, yes.

*watches and waits with barely concealed glee!*

*confuzzled as to subject*

[Kath]

*gets a magnifying glass and goes searching for a clue*

Aren't you a bit too busy campaigning for that?

[C_ris]

Aren't you a bit too busy campaigning for that?

Nope, w*rkin. :shhh:

[Kath]

*confuzzled as to subject*

Mason, Head Honcho of the sci-tech-****up-council.

If there's any justice in the world, he's going dooooooown.