What would make you leave the cinema?

[Kath]

Okay, film adaptions - none of them are perfect are they?

So here's a very hypothetical question for you, given the oh-so-low chances of a Pern film hitting your local silver screen. What sort of changes would you ABSOLUTELY NOT accept? What would have you rushing down the aisle and out the door as fast as your fannish feet can bear you?


Bad dragon design? Intelligent Thread? Crossovers with Earth-now? Character assassination? An invasion of Mary Sue? AIVAS was a Dalek?

[Jax]

The only thing that would make me leave is needing to pee! I would sit through the entire thing regardless of what they did to it, just to have seen it.

[Pernita]

Me too - and hope they do not deviate too much from Anne's stories
(But *cringe* I suspect they would)

[William I Zumwalt aka WIZ]

I agree, I would watch the entire movie, just to be able to say I had seen it.

[Milo]

Nothin'. I paid for that shit.


Though I don't really go to the cinema much, and when I do I usually am not gambling.

[cwolf]

Ah, thought you meant annoying idiots. The title implied that.

One of the reasons I prefer going to a theater on a night that's usually very slow. Is that nobody is there to complain when I laugh loudly. I hate getting the back of my seat kicked.

[rosemary]

I don't go to the cinima as often as I could, and am very fussy. Once seated I have never yet walked out, although I have felt like shouting at the screen when they have changed a much loved plot of charecter beyond endurance. I love the image as AIVIS was a darlek. That would make me want to firstly howl with laughter then throw a hissy fit at the stupidity, but mostly I guess laugh. Of course there is alway a chance I would have to hide behind the sofa (Chair in front) It would be a Darlek after all.

[Bamy]

I would sit through it no matter how crap just to pick up on all the faults etc...though generally, when i go into the cinema I lock up my internal critic and just accept it is as it is and is meant to be enjoyed.

[Beisla]

I've also never walked out of a cinema, I don't think it would even enter my mind. The movie would have to be pretty horrendous for that to happen.

Did you mean the question literally, ie. for people to think of rediculous things that might make the movie awful, or should it have been phrased differently, to try to coinsider actual things that might make the movie suck?

[Kath]

Well, character assassination by the scriptwriters isn't at all unlikely,,, I meant the latter option, really.

For me, I'd consider leaving if it had no redeeming features at all. That means bad acting, corny scripting, and cgi on the cheap.

[Bronze-Dragonrider]

Aivas as a Dalek... :rofl: Actually not too much of a stretch, given his xenocidal tendencies... ;)


There is very little that would make me actually LEAVE the theater. If I paid for it, even if it was horrendous, I at least want to have seen the whole thing. It would have to be extremely painful for it to be worth leaving. Hell, I saw the movie "Bug" and stayed to see the whole thing, and I got in for FREE.


But things that would make me hate it... it really depends. I can't say that character assassination, deletion or addition of characters or change of motivations would do it, because it depends on how they pull it off. Any one if those things COULD be beneficial if done properly.

Generally changing canon would tick me off, unless it was something good like allowing lesbians. But I would like if they stuck to the RULES of Pern, even if they change characters/story elements. Color and relative size of dragons shouldn't be changed (NO PINK FIRE LIZARDS.) etc.

Given my obsession over Pernese dragons, I will be extremely critical of their design, I just hope that thought and care is put into their design, even if it doesn't match with the image in my head. But please, please, pleeaaaasssse at least give them flight muscles. I absolutely hate it when wings are just stuck on the side of a dinosaur and it's suddenly a dragon.

Bad casting would also severely annoy me. I don't want to see Robert Pattinson as Jaxom.

[Bronze-Dragonrider]

I don't go to the cinima as often as I could, and am very fussy. Once seated I have never yet walked out, although I have felt like shouting at the screen when they have changed a much loved plot of charecter beyond endurance. I love the image as AIVIS was a darlek. That would make me want to firstly howl with laughter then throw a hissy fit at the stupidity, but mostly I guess laugh. Of course there is alway a chance I would have to hide behind the sofa (Chair in front) It would be a Darlek after all.

There's no r in Dalek :shhh:

[Aranel]

It would have to be absolutely horrible. Bad acted, cheap effects, AND screw ups by the theater staff, like sound out of sync and back copies. I've complained repeatedly at theaters where most people would just sit through it. Funnily enough, my complaints got things FIXED.

Here's the thing, though. Most places, if you walk out of the movie before it's over, say half way, and speak to a manager, you have a good chance of getting your money back.

[maiken]

Likely I would sit through it, though I might be extremely annoyed to the point of screaming at the screen. Dragon design problems would probably drive me nuts though. >_<

*edit*

I used to work with the projectors at a cinema while I was in high school. We LIKED to hear if we were doing something wrong, simply so that we could provide a better experience to the patrons. I know, it sounds weird, but it really does help the company with future problems.

[GHarris]

Ruby red slippers of time travel.

GH

[Gini_xX]

Bad casting would also severely annoy me. I don't want to see Robert Pattinson as Jaxom.

That right there. That would be enough to make me walk out.

Or not walk in, in the first place.
And then go and hunt down the casting director and beat s/he to within an inch of their lives....
With Robert Pattison's forehead.

[Dragongirl]

Bad casting would also severely annoy me. I don't want to see Robert Pattinson as Jaxom.

Kristen Stewart as Menolly. Or...or Lessa.

*wide-eyed stare*

[Zei]

Only three things.

1.) Shit marketing: "THE FANTASY EVENT OF THE SUMMER!" Yes, that's technically not in the cinema, but I'm not going to be sitting with a bunch of parents who think this is good entertainment for their five-year-olds.

2.) On that note, the movie becoming obviously twisted towards a certain demographic -- action scenes pumped up so it's like Clash of the Titans, or all the violence and sex toned down for the kiddies.

3.) Shitty protagonists not made slightly more bearable. I can't stand Lessa. Or F'lar. And I know their shittiness is all part of the plot or whatever, but come on. If you're not making a 16-year-old girl care, you sure as hell ain't gonna make America care.

[Samarra]

If they don't show mating flights :evil:

Obviously.

[mawofone]

I hardly ever go to the movies. If I do I will stay & see the whole thing. They can't do any worse then what they did to Eragon. I stayed & watched that.

[rosemary]

There's no r in Dalek :shhh:
Off topic I know but....
Classic Rosemary mistake there, I thought it might look wrong but could not work out why it looked wrong. I even did a search on the word on google and still didn't see it. Words that I have not read thousands of time are especailly difficult, thats why I have problems with sci-fi names a lot and names on here. Somedays I can stare at a word until I can't see a single solid letter. Bad dyslexia day then I suspect. I am deeply ashamed and apologetic. :spank:

[Mojeoux]

Hello, Kitchen Table!!

This is my very first post.
I have read that "newbies" are encouraged to go to the "lounge" first, and I did.
But this thread, about the latest Dragon Flight movie news, this is the question I was most curious about.
I learned a lot reading along this thread, my my.

Now I'm here to say that I love every scrabbley, snarly, sweet and sour one of you!!!!
I love you most of all Scarecrows, because we share these visions of these books.
How many of you have day-dreamed about swimming in Robinton's Cove?
Any way, about the movie...........

Sammara, brought up the one deal-breaker for me, "The mating flights."
And then she wrote "obviously."
So I'm guessing that you guys have talked about the controversial aspects of the mating flight and the Human/Dragon impulses involved.
Do you think this might be a deal breaker for Anne also?

I think that HBO or Showtime would allow for a long and delicious series, that could go on for years.
And the coming-attraction teaser should have a good hatching and impression. I've read the books so many times and the hatchings and impressions still get right to my heart.

[Ryuu]

I hardly ever go to the movies. If I do I will stay & see the whole thing. They can't do any worse then what they did to Eragon. I stayed & watched that.Yes, We Can: Ramoth magically full grown in seconds--complete with firery bursts whilst flying through the clouds:puke:

[Deior]

if anne, who till now has kept such a deathgrip on the authenticity of her storylines down to even how fan weyrs are run, but cant now get her own son to keep to that or even his own additions making sense, im afraid its all too likely that any movie version of the Pern books will be like Disney movies: have the name, but everything else screwed up.



Me too - and hope they do not deviate too much from Anne's stories
(But *cringe* I suspect they would)

[Kath]

Hello, Kitchen Table!!

This is my very first post.
I have read that "newbies" are encouraged to go to the "lounge" first, and I did.
But this thread, about the latest Dragon Flight movie news, this is the question I was most curious about.

Welcome!
I learned a lot reading along this thread, my my.

Now I'm here to say that I love every scrabbley, snarly, sweet and sour one of you!!!!


*growl* ;)


Sammara, brought up the one deal-breaker for me, "The mating flights."
And then she wrote "obviously."
So I'm guessing that you guys have talked about the controversial aspects of the mating flight and the Human/Dragon impulses involved.
Do you think this might be a deal breaker for Anne also?


You know, I'm not sure we have... I'm going to have a look, and if not, I'll start a new one.


I think that HBO or Showtime would allow for a long and delicious series, that could go on for years.
And the coming-attraction teaser should have a good hatching and impression. I've read the books so many times and the hatchings and impressions still get right to my heart.
I'm curious how gory they'd let the first hatching be. Ramoth and some of the others were pretty violent.

When you think about it, there's so many different ways they could market it, from a family friendly 'How to train your dragon' right up to 'Dragonriders of Porn'...

[Vyon]

there's so many different ways they could market it, from a family friendly 'How to train your dragon' right up to 'Dragonriders of Porn'...

Isn't that part of the problem? You can't get it aligned to a specific demographic without leaving out something important that isn't suitable for that demographic. You need the flight scenes from 'How to train your dragon' and some steamy love scenes from Lessa/F'lar + Ramoth/Mnementh to encompass the Pern story.

As for walking out - the only time I've done that was ages ago when "we have been visited by aliens" films were fashionable. Someone was playing silly games with one of those crystal skulls and a red light, the result had more than one person in the 'ladies' crouched over a toilet.

[Samarra]

Sammara, brought up the one deal-breaker for me, "The mating flights."
And then she wrote "obviously."
So I'm guessing that you guys have talked about the controversial aspects of the mating flight and the Human/Dragon impulses involved.
Do you think this might be a deal breaker for Anne also?


We haven't talked about it, everyone just knows I'm a pervert.

[persephone]

When you think about it, there's so many different ways they could market it, from a family friendly 'How to train your dragon' right up to 'Dragonriders of Porn'...

. . . You know, Dragonriders of Porn actually sounds kind of entertaining, like those Star Trek porn parodies. I'd watch that.

If I'm paying 10 bucks for a movie, I'm not gonna walk out unless it's gorn (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Gorn), though somehow I don't think even Hollywood could morph Pern into Saw In Space or even Passion for SF Nerds. I can take violence in my entertainment, but I don't enjoy it unless it's stylized, pretty or animated (which explains why I think Hellsing Ultimate is the sweetest show ever, but True Blood squicks me out) and I seriously avoid any movie that advertises itself mostly on its violence.

[HeadwomanLexa]

Damnit! Warn for TVtropes links! Just wasted another hour!
:facepalm:

[Anareth]

Damnit! Warn for TVtropes links! Just wasted another hour!
:facepalm:

ONLY an hour?

Probably only two things could prompt me to walk out:

1. Elves

2. Adam Sandler as F'lar.

[Kugai]

I have nothing against the man, he does well in the films he's in, but if they get Russell Crowe into the Dragonriders film, you can forget about me going.

"At my signal, unleash Lessa." :D

[GHarris]

I have nothing against the man, he does well in the films he's in, but if they get Russell Crowe into the Dragonriders film, you can forget about me going.

"At my signal, unleash Lessa." :D

Yeah, I don't think Russell Crowe would make a good F'lar for several reasons.

He might make a good Oldtimer Rider, but if they get him, they'd probably have to pay him enough that they'd need to make him a major character.

GH

[BeckyMildan]

What would make me walk out of the Pern movie? Very bad cgi or special affects, going so far off the basic concept of the books that it's not really Pern, more porn then Pern, acting or writing so bad it's not even funny. On the question of porn, I would rather see little but be given enough to imagine a lot. Hatching violence shouldn't be overdone but not ignored. In the book it was dealt with quickly and then forgotten, I would hope that the movie would handle it the same way. Given Anne's past history of dealing with movie makers, I won't hold my breath waiting for the movie.

One other small point. I have walked out of movies, usually be cause the plot was stupid or boring.

[Zei]

the plot was stupid or boring.

snort

[Cavatica]

The only movie I've ever walked out of was Pineapple Express. I mean, really, you're talking to someone who sat all the way through Troy, Snakes on a Plane, and even D-War. I have a pretty high tolerance for the embarrassing, abysmal, offensive, and/or flat-out boring. If I suspect it's going to be really, REALLY bad, I just don't go see the movie.

So I can imagine myself enduring a travesty of a Pern movie all the way through, if for no other reason than, you know -- you can't criticize it if you didn't SEE it. It really would have to be almost unrecognizable for me not to put up with it; otherwise, I tend to be easily manipulated by trainwrecks.

[cwolf]

The only movie I've ever walked out of was Pineapple Express.

Disturbingly enough. I did actually see that. In fact I shocked several friends by going. I hated dumb and dumber, and their thinking was that I should hate that too.

It wasn't a keeper, but the explosions were worth it.

[persephone]

Damnit! Warn for TVtropes links! Just wasted another hour!
:facepalm:

Sorry, lol.