Which Pernese era do you like best?

[Anneli]

If your choice is Ninth Pass, is that pre- or post AIVAS?

Do you prefer Sixth Pass Pern or Second Pass Pern?

Or was the Landing and early years the best of Pern for you?

I personally am an early Ninth Pass Pern fan - ie I prefer Ninth Pass Pern before the advent of AIVAS, but I also love the Sixth Pass books. I guess that puts me in the category of Pern-technophobes ;)

How do you like your Pern? :bouncy:

[granath]

Sixth Pass and early Ninth Pass like Anneli, and much for the same reasons.

[Anareth]

Sixth, Second, maybe early 9th (up until the discovery of AIVAS.) I like the adaptive period in DE/RSR, I like Classic Pern in the Sixth, and I like how they were headed before the Deus Ex Machina dropped in.

[Lady Cin]

So sue me...I'm partial to the Dd/CoP era

I've love to see more about the early weyrs...the Lady told us how they started Benden, Telgar, Ista and High Reaches...but only described Benden...I'd like to hear more about Telgar, Ista, HR and the founding of Igen. Maybe some more stories about trips back to Southern...they're mentioned, but no details.

Don't get me wrong...I love ALL of them. Only one I don't own and haven't read is Dragons Kin...which I'm getting next weekend for xmas :)

[Pat]

...I really, really want to know more about the early days of the first settlers and how they survived Thread. It would be so interesting to see more of the evolution to the Pernese we meet centuries later.

But then, I'm a bit of a history buff anyway.... :D

[Shazza]

I think I must be an abominator. I loved the 9th pass before AIVAS.

[AnnMarie]

I would LIKE more of the early days... First and Second Pass... out of the rest... Nineth. The only thing I am totally crazy about post-Avis is the dolphins reconneting.

Which reminds me, I would really like to know exactly what cased the breach there!

[Bob12]

Actually, I like all of the eras but I kinda give the nod to the 9th pass, especially during the discovery of AIVAS and the "moving" of the Red Star, so I suppose than makes me pro-post AIVAS

[ladyholdermara]

The first and second passes were my fav books :) but then I also am a history buff AND (hides) I ended up reading the books backwards lol. I really enjoyed learning how the seperate holds and weyrs were founded and especially liked Dragonseye. :) It's the most read book of my collection.

[lccorp2]

I guess I'm in the flow-pre-AIVAS 9th Pass for me.

[Dawn]

I'm partial to the Landing (1st Pass) and 2nd Pass era. :good: I like seeing how everything began and how it evolved into what we read in the later books. :cool:

[Goldendragon]

I too really loved landing and the 1st and 2nd pass. I also like the ninth pass, pre-Aivas and some of the post-Aivas. I am really looking forward for books about after all of the ridding of thread though as seeing how they conteniue on.

[C_ris]

First Pass and Ninth Pass pre-AIVAS.

I enjoyed hearing about the Landing and hows the dragons came to being, and in the early Ninth Pass i enjoyed seeing how the Pernese were using their own ingenuity to develop, rather than that of a bygone age.

[Kitsch]

My favourite period is definitely just after Landing i.e. Dragonsdawn and the short stories :ok:

[Master Harper Andrea]

I think Aivas got a bum rap. It's up to the people to decide what is done with the information. Just because it was technical doesn't make it bad. I myself prefer a flush toilet to an outhouse.........

:2cent:

[granath]

So do I, Andrea, in my day to day life. However, I read stories to escape for a moment to another reality, and I don't need the characters to enjoy the same creature comforts as I'm used to in order to enjoy the story. That said, one reason why I don't like post-AIVAS Pern is that the earlier books were so much better written, the characters were more gray and less black and white, and there were less deus ex-machina solutions.

[Anneli]

Well, those of you who like the early turns on Pern should start looking forward to buying Dragonsblood :D

It's due out in the US on 25 January, a couple of months later in the UK :(

It covers two time-eras. The first is the start of the Third Pass and combines characters from Dragon's Kin with new characters we haven't seen before, while the second is in a later period of the First Pass and includes some of the characters we got to know in Dragonsdawn. For instance, it touches on the deaths of Emily Boll and Sorka, among others, and gives a few more glimpses into Pern in the First Pass. It also gives a whole new aspect to Wind Blossom...

I won't say anymore to avoid spoilers :(

[Anareth]

So do I, Andrea, in my day to day life. However, I read stories to escape for a moment to another reality, and I don't need the characters to enjoy the same creature comforts as I'm used to in order to enjoy the story. That said, one reason why I don't like post-AIVAS Pern is that the earlier books were so much better written, the characters were more gray and less black and white, and there were less deus ex-machina solutions.


What she said. Plus for me it's not so much the technology (for heaven's sake, Fandarel invented the TELEGRAPH in DQ with no help at all!) but that it's all neatly dropped into their laps, not only solving their problems all tied up in a neat bow (DQ was definitely pointing away from going to the Red Star being the solution, AIVAS reversed that) but creating two camps--the AIVAS is Right, All Hail AIVAS, Crowd, and the Knuckle-Dragging Cave-Dwelling Abominators, which is not only trite plotting but thoroughly unrealistic--let's face it, there are ups and downs to technology, and just browsing through the computer and doing what it tells you and it's all good is pretty dumb. Technology on Pern isn't necessarily bad, but the way it was done was.

[Larry O-G]

Talk about hard choices :eek: I love all these stories..
I guess to choose Dragons Dawn and Chronicles.. I would love to be in on the adventure of establishing a new colony.. so there it is. :2cent:

[maiken]

I can't decide between First pass or ninth pass pre-aivas. Mostly, though, I think i like First better. Getting used to the new planet must of been hard, and hardships are my specialty in writing.

mai :redfruit:

[Earthmother]

Dragonseye and Moreta are my favorite PERN books. Of the two passes, I want to learn more about the second pass.... I want a sequel to Dragonseye. :devil:

[Mausey]

I'd like to be with Red and family during the founding of Ruatha. The danger of thread is known and the dragon riders are coming along nicely. The plague has come and gone and people are getting settled again. It's a time of expansion and would be quite exciting.

[BeckyMildan]

I like all of the books but I would like a lot more information about the earilier time periods. I would also like a story or a few short stories about an interval.

[tommie08]

Most definitely love all Pernese eras, but I prefer 9th pass Pern pre-AVIS

[Ravien Coromana]

i forgert whch pass it is, but the one in which the white dragon is in

[C_ris]

I'd like to be with Red and family during the founding of Ruatha. The danger of thread is known and the dragon riders are coming along nicely. The plague has come and gone and people are getting settled again. It's a time of expansion and would be quite exciting.

yep, that what makes it so readable!

[McClance]

I would like to live during the Ninth-pass, post-AVIAS and be a dolphineer. :D

[see'r]

;)

i think probably 9th, pre-aivas (and going right on through post-aivas), but mostly because that's the pern i "know" best :D

[Monkeysrule]

Well, those of you who like the early turns on Pern should start looking forward to buying Dragonsblood :D

It's due out in the US on 25 January, a couple of months later in the UK :(

It covers two time-eras. The first is the start of the Third Pass and combines characters from Dragon's Kin with new characters we haven't seen before, while the second is in a later period of the First Pass and includes some of the characters we got to know in Dragonsdawn. For instance, it touches on the deaths of Emily Boll and Sorka, among others, and gives a few more glimpses into Pern in the First Pass. It also gives a whole new aspect to Wind Blossom...

I won't say anymore to avoid spoilers :(
I read the first half and didn't like how the DD characters were doen--there was no personality left in any of them!! And M'hall's still a creep.... :ugg: I personally liked the third pass part with Lorana and such.

Back to topic: I like the second pass because you get to see who was named for whom (Paulin=Paul Benden Tashvi=Tarvi Andiyar S'nan=Sean Connell? Zulaya=Alianne Zulueta, etc.) and the founding of Crom.

[Monkeysrule]

i forgert whch pass it is, but the one in which the white dragon is in
Ninth Pass, deadglow! ;) It's time to reread....

[Bronze-Dragonrider]

Np preference really, I love ALL of Pern :D not even Aivas phases me :)

[Monkeysrule]

I would like to live during the Nineth-pass, post-AVIAS and be a dolphineer. :D
Is Nineth the name of your dragon? :evil:

[Kenzie's Mom]

I'm a ninth passer..... that's where N'ton lived and since he's my favorite character... I have to stay with the ninth.... Pre AIVAS... because N'ton appeared more in those books!!

[Monkeysrule]

I also like First Pass books because of the characters and the pioneering. I liked how the original dragonriders were like a family and how they stuck together when Marco and Duluth died. It must be hard to start from scratch. That's the only reason I don't hate Sean so much.

[Raven]

I like post-Aivas Ninth Pass. I am 'attached' to the characters. I am always eager for new books about this time period because I can't wait to find out what else my old 'friends' are up to. But, hey, Pern is Pern and I like it all!

[Elianth]

I like Sixth Pass, and Ninth Pass pre-AIVAS. Personally, I think Pern lost some of its magic with the discovery of AIVAS.

[DuchessPariah]

Ninth Pass, pre-aivas (where my Weyr is set!) ... because I like the "simplistic" living. Sure, Thread was a nuisance... but it gave the people goals. The menace gave them a reason to live, to wake up, to Impress!

*shrugs* AIVAS is overrated. *pokes it with a stick*

[ChristineAdai]

I prefer the early times up until the second and third passes. I, too, would like to know what happens in an Interval as it would be more of a challenge then a Pass. After all, fighting Thread is a fight for survival and I can only read so much about it before wanting to change the channel, so to speak. An Interval allows one so many more challenges, especially those changes in culture and the interactions between crafts, holders, and riders.

Sarah

[rider_of_the_last_queen]

I like the Ninth Pass before the found that danged Avias. I didn't like it that he gave them all that technology. I like Pern the way it is when they're living by the teaching ballads and records.

[Keita]

First and second pass...

[rider_of_the_last_queen]

The first pass was ok.

[queenrider melody]

Let me see.... probably the Second, Third, or any time in the Ninth Pass. I might also like to live in the Third, Second, or First Interval.

[Lady Arwyn]

9th Pass, post AIVAS. I get to have my cake and eat it too, an agrarian world with computers! It's exactly the place I would want to live.

[Sandi]

I like all the Pern books, though I must admit I like some better than others. I guess, being most familiar with Lessa and F'lar et al, I am most familiar with 9th but lukewarm towards AIVAS. When I first read that, I wondered if it had anything to do with the fact that Anne seemed to like being called a Science Fiction writer rather than a Fantasy writer. Putting AIVAS in there, then producing DD & DE/RSR put Pern squarely back into the Sci Fi genre.

[Bamy]

Second Pass.

[Brenda]

I like whichever one I'm reading about at the moment!

[Larken]

Second Pass Pern. *nods* It's pretty much what a normal Pern would be like. The Southern Continent was still open (mostly). However, I would take Second Pass and mix it with Sixth Pass, thus eliminating the Plague that took place. Me no likey. I still don't like how that one ended, so sad.

Second Pass Pern in a Sixth Pass Timeline.

Nine was a no-no, because of the whole betweening it. Besides, can't write about Nine (not alternate) much anyways. :p

[Harper X]

I prefer pre AIVAS 9th pass to AIVAS 9th pass.

[SFAHarper]

I am an abominator. I think that getting rid of the Red Star and Thread will actually cause the extinction of the dragons. Other than that bloody computer, I love Ninth Pass. I know there are plenty of you who don't like F'lar or Lessa, but I do. I love them and F'nor and the whole lot of them. Jaxom I can take or leave. I want to know more about the first pass and how the original dragonriders faired. We get on glimpse into it from the Chronicles, but I need more. Torene is mentioned in Dragonflight, so what did she do to be such an outstanding and memorable Weyrwoman, other than founding Benden? Of course, I want to know more about the second pass. How can she introduce the second pass and then leave us all waiting?! AH! So I guess I like all the era's but Ninth pass Pre-AIVAS. Blasted damn computer to save the world. Blimey, it was a bit too easy. Maybe we could have a tenth pass where *GASP* Thread still falls.?

:note: SFA :note:

[Monkeysrule]

That's what fandom is for ;) Yes, I'm an abominator, too. Grab your torches and burn Aivas! *throws torch to SFAHarper* BURN! Go between, you blasted, fardling thing!

[Larken]

Well, Threads weren't apart of the original plan. Neither were dragons, or flitts. I highly doubt dragons will go extinct.

[queenrider melody]

That's what fandom is for ;) Yes, I'm an abominator, too. Grab your torches and burn Aivas! *throws torch to SFAHarper* BURN! Go between, you blasted, fardling thing!
Although I do think that pre-AIVAS was good, I do not object against AVAIS's plans and the end of threadfall, and if you want to burn something that is of grave importance to the people of Pern, than it's a short hop and a long jump between for you! *pulls SFAHarper and monkeysrule onto gold dragon and pushes them off between* And good ridens! :razz: ;)

[Monkeysrule]

*Takes Aivas along with the ride* :devil:

[queenrider melody]

*Takes Aivas along with the ride* :devil:
*Grabs onto AIVAS but drops monkeysrule and goes back home.* :devil:

[McClance]

Hey! No fighting a-dragonback while between. It's not safe. :redfruit:

[queenrider melody]

Hey! No fighting a-dragonback while between. It's not safe. :redfruit:
Ruin all the fun! :razz: :redfruit:

[Monkeysrule]

Hey! No fighting a-dragonback while between. It's not safe. :redfruit:
Party pooper!

*Sends dragon to flame Abomination before going between to rescue rider* :evil:

[queenrider melody]

Party pooper!

*Sends dragon to flame Abomination before going between to rescue rider* :evil:
:razz:

[Monkeysrule]

:devil:

*goes between times as to not have to live with abomination*

*comes out during the first pass*

[queenrider melody]

:devil:

*goes between times as to not have to live with abomination*

*comes out during the first pass*
*Shouts, "Good riddens!"* :evil:

*Goes between to bring monkeysrule back because it isn't fun without her. :D *

[Monkeysrule]

*Quickly goes between to where nobody can find her*

*Comes out in the same plae she left, only before she was earlier*

There! Now everyone's happy. :evil: Except my brain, which is tied up in knots over the sentence above:ouch:

[queenrider melody]

Well, revenge for AIVAS has been accomplished! ;) (FINALLY!) :evil:

[SFAHarper]

Let me clarify my above stated opinion. So I said I was an abominator, but only jokingly. I understand the people of Pern don't want Thread, but I never agreed to burn AIVAS (thanks monkeys ;) . I'm just saying that the plot to get rid of Thread and then have Dragonriders be "sky watchers" seems pretty weak. I support all the Healer advances and all the other advances, actually. My BIG objection to AIVAS is the fact that the PURPOSE for the dragons and their riders is suddenly gone. Were Pern a real planet I think they would die out as a species. :devil: I'm speaking heresy and hypocracy aren't I? That and too "hide-bound."

:note: SFA :note:

[queenrider melody]

Let me clarify my above stated opinion. So I said I was an abominator, but only jokingly. I understand the people of Pern don't want Thread, but I never agreed to burn AIVAS (thanks monkeys ;) . I'm just saying that the plot to get rid of Thread and then have Dragonriders be "sky watchers" seems pretty weak. I support all the Healer advances and all the other advances, actually. My BIG objection to AIVAS is the fact that the PURPOSE for the dragons and their riders is suddenly gone. Were Pern a real planet I think they would die out as a species. :devil: I'm speaking heresy and hypocracy aren't I? That and too "hide-bound."

:note: SFA :note:
Monkeysrule and I were only kidding. And I sort of agree and disagree with you, SFA. I do agree that dragons and their riders bein " sky watchers" is pretty weak, but I don't believe that the species would die out.

[Brenda]

In this case, Hide-bound would be refusing to consider what anne wrote as anything but perfect, and refusing to consider anything other than what she wrote as possible.

[Monkeysrule]

I stated my opinion of what would become of the dragonriders in my fanfiction (which is going nowhere at the moment:irked: ) in which the dragonriders are actually hated and considered bad luck and a drain. causing the major conflict. Though I have to admit, it is a bit far-fetched, but then, anything could happen on Pern.

[Monkeysrule]

Monkeysrule and I were only kidding. And I sort of agree and disagree with you, SFA. I do agree that dragons and their riders bein " sky watchers" is pretty weak, but I don't believe that the species would die out.
Agree. The only thing I really hate about Aivas is what he did to the dragonriders, both short-term and the long run. Thread is as much a part of Pern as the dragons are. Without either, its whole purpose as a fictional place is destroyed.

[Brenda]

I stated my opinion of what would become of the dragonriders in my fanfiction (which is going nowhere at the moment:irked: ) in which the dragonriders are actually hated and considered bad luck and a drain. causing the major conflict. Though I have to admit, it is a bit far-fetched, but then, anything could happen on Pern.
Sounds like the situation at the beginning of Dragonflight to me!

[Monkeysrule]

Only that it's much worse. They actually have to live in hiding. It's a work in progress, anyway.

[By and By]

I'm definitely a Landing person. Lessa, Menolly and Lorana all irritate me badly. Nerilka is.. don't get me started. I like Sean and Sorka, because there are very obvious flaws in their personalities that make them human. I don't much care for Sallah Telgar, but I like her name. I like what Avril Bitra did for the story, but I didn't like her character for reasons unknown. Maybe because I can't pronounce her last name. The T always becomes a TCH in my mouth, and I've gotten many an odd look from my mother when I mention her. XD
I also like the scientific side of this.. I wish there was more information about how the dragons were bio-engineered. I like that Todd threw a lot of that in Dragon's Blood.. I even used part of it in my Biology class! Kind of.. sort of.. not really, but close. I understood my Biology class because of it, when it comes to the DNA portion (which I slept through ^^").

[Monkeysrule]

I'm definitely a Landing person. Lessa, Menolly and Lorana all irritate me badly. Nerilka is.. don't get me started.
All of those but Menolly annoyed me, too. But I really like Menolly's character, especially in DSong and DSinger.
I like Sean and Sorka, because there are very obvious flaws in their personalities that make them human.
Those are two characters I really enjoy reading (as well as Ruth, Moreta, Menolly, Torene, and Pol and Bay) and also one reason (or two) why I like Dragonsdawn so much.
I don't much care for Sallah Telgar, but I like her name. I like what Avril Bitra did for the story, but I didn't like her character for reasons unknown. Maybe because I can't pronounce her last name. The T always becomes a TCH in my mouth, and I've gotten many an odd look from my mother when I mention her. XD
That's why I like her name. And I get odd looks just from mentioning Pern or Dragons, though they should be getting used to it by now (you should see my house...I swear the polymer clay dragons are taking over the house. XP).
I also like the scientific side of this.. I wish there was more information about how the dragons were bio-engineered. I like that Todd threw a lot of that in Dragon's Blood.. I even used part of it in my Biology class! Kind of.. sort of.. not really, but close. I understood my Biology class because of it, when it comes to the DNA portion (which I slept through ^^").
Naughty, naughty!:shake: tut, tut, tut...

[Ceri]

I enjoyed the Third Pass ; I think it had a lot of depth, although I'm kind of partial to the pre-Aivas Ninth Pass(and the glimpse of the Eighth Interval we got in Dragonflight)

[Aurelia]

I love the 6th Pass w/ Moreta.

[Coffee]

I haven't read the books in awhile, so I have my Passes all mixed up. I like the 9th pass, pre-AIVAS. Moreta's time, the first pass, and perhaps, the second pass. I'm fuzzy on it. Anyone have a timeline?