Central PA Gather/s Aug. 19/20, 2005

[Purrrdit]

DragonLady/GreenDena and her two young sons will be visiting Jeffrey555/BlueTopaz, BlueEyed Dragon and myself (Purrrdit/DivingPeggeth) in August.:bouncy: :applause: :bow: Her exalted presence is a great excuse to have a Gather! Actually a one to two day Gather experience. :ok:

Saturday Aug. 20th we will be heading for Hershey Park and Chocolate World to spend the day eating chocolate,:choc: riding the rides,:mexwave: eating chocolate,:choc: hopefully meeting and greeting friends:group: while of course eating and possibly drinking chocolate:choc:. We would love to have you join us there! Did I mention the CHOCOLATE? :choc:

For anyone wanting a more intimate opportunity to meet, greet and get to know fellow KTers/Anne Fans you are invited to a cookout party:party: at our home the afternoon/night before on Friday Aug. 19th. As Blueeyed Dragon (our son) and my mother will both be in Fla. that night, we will have several beds available. We also have an inflatable bed and cot along with several couches and lots of floor space, so anyone wanting to stay over night is welcome! We can have a convoy to Hershey the next morning.

We intend to supply meat and vegetables for make it yourself shish-ka-bobs, corn on the cob, ice tea, sodas etc. Anyone attending is encouraged to bring a covered dish, desert, chips, pretzels or other snack item. You are welcome to BYOB, but be aware that there will be young children and we do not encourage over-indulgence. Weather permitting you will cook your own food over a wood fire. In case of rain, we have a covered porch and grill. Strange creatures have been known to nest in our woods and a firelizard egg hunt:dragon2: is likely to take place.

Now for the bad news; We live about 36.1 miles from Hershey Park and about 22 miles from Harrisburg. Our home is on the side of a small mountain, in the woods in ‘Perry’ county. In other words, we live in the country in the middle of no where, and a long drive from anywhere. BUT we love it!

Please let us know if you would have an interest in this Gather.:wave:

[Earthmother]

:bouncy: :bouncy: I do not know who will be enjoying themselves more... the boys and I or Rod (home alone and able to play with the computers distraction free). :roll: :evil: :laugh:

[Dux]

I need to talk it over with hubby - I definately want to come. Does Hershey Park have rides for small kids?

[Dux]

Okay - just checked - they do, plus Rachel is free as she's only 2 1/2.

[Shazza's Back]

Ooooooooooo all that chocolate. Now where is a dragon when I need one? ;)

[Jeffrey555]

I need to talk it over with hubby - I definately want to come. Does Hershey Park have rides for small kids?


Yes, a whole area of kiddie rides plus a nice merry-go-round and people sized walking candy bars. Plus a small zoo that is part of the entrance price.

[Jeffrey555]

Ooooooooooo all that chocolate. Now where is a dragon when I need one? ;)

They are on their way to Atlanta.

[Dux]

Unless something comes up with hubby's work -we're coming :bouncy:

We'll probably drive up on Friday as we're not that far from you. We're about 2 hours from Harrisburg, so it shouldn't be more than 3 to get to you (assuming backroads are invoved). How far are you from the Maryland border?

We'll probably get a hotel near Hershey for Friday and Saturday nights.

This is gonna be soooo great!!!

[Purrrdit]

:bouncy: :ok: It's so nice when a plan starts comming togeather!! Can't wait to meet you!

We're north of Carlisle. So if you're comming from Maryland, we are closer than Harrisburg. Up 81, get off at Carlisle- Route 34 and follow it N. About 12 or so miles and only the last 7 or so are 'back country roads'. Actually they are nicely paved and not dirt untill you get to our driveway, so it's not really 'back' 'back country roads'.

[Purpura]

Hey :fiend: Mom! Have fun at Hershey with the rest of them... The :choc: is Awesome and I am sure the company will be just as good

[Yonuh Adisi Fiend Jedi]

It looks like SilverHawk and I won't be able to come. There is a law suit pending against a department store and SilverHawk is a witness. And hopefully by the 19 and 20th we will be on our way moving back to New Mexico.

She and I are both bummed that we won't be able to make it. But as long as all of ya'll have enough fun for us as well, we should be okay.

[magicfan241]

I shall have to see what my schedule looks like closer to the middle of August. It's not all that far for me (~60 minutes to Hershey), so I'll see if it would be possible to make it there.

No promises, as getting a ride from the middle of Chester County might be a challenge.

magicfan241

[Yonuh Adisi Fiend Jedi]

Though SilverHawk and I won't be able to go, we still want pics from and of everybody that do go. :bouncy: :bouncy: :fiend: :bouncy: :bouncy:

[Kater]

Shucks :( I'm going to Hershey on 5 August with my Honor Society :) But I'll miss the fun on 20 August!!

[Shazza's Back]

They are on their way to Atlanta.

You mean I missed the Atlanta dragons? Darn!

[FallingLlama]

I'll be there -- but demand that someone ride roller coasters with me!

As for the cookout, I'll try but Friday is my last day of camp and I work in Mifflinburg -- about half an hour further from your house.

You know, if Dena is staying at your house, you really do need to drive up routes 11/15 and take a picture at the dragon (http://wltstuff.vexingvixen.net/graphics/dragon_5.jpg)!

[Purrrdit]

:bouncy: FallingLlama, I like you already!!!! I have to beg and twist arms with Jeff and my son to get them to ride the roller coasters!

Neat dragon, where is it? I never heard of it before. We will try our best to go see it & get photos if you can send directions.

Dena and her sons arrive tomorrow night at Phil. airport. I pick them up at 10pm:welcome: Then have to drive home. We are not sure of plans yet, but will probably be heading to our 'camp' at Big Bear Camp Ground in WV in the next day or two. Then for a while Dena will be visiting others before returning for the Gather.

In any case, if anyone sends messages, don't worry if it is a week or more before we respond. No computer at camp!

[FallingLlama]

Then you and I will ride roller coasters and everyone else can wave to us!

The dragon is fairly near -- only about 20 minutes from my house, on 11/15 between Clark's Ferry Bridge and Liverpool. If you head up Rt 34 through Newport, when you come to 11/15, turn right (south). It sits between a restaurant and a place that sells and services school buses, and looks like it should be in a miniature golf course.

[Earthmother]

[COLOR="DarkGreen"]Then you and I will ride roller coasters and everyone else can wave to us!

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My oldest son and I will be joining you on the roller coasters too! We love them. :evil: :bouncy:

My youngest is worrying over missing first grade if we go to Pennsylvania. :eek: :laugh:

Less than 24 hrs and we will be in the air with the birds, flying east... :D

[Purpura]

Bring me back some :choc: :fiend: Mom! :P teases

[Purrrdit]

Dragon Lady has arrived!!!!!!!!!!:heartbeat :bouncy:

Listened to new Harry Potter book on tape on the drive back from airport!!!

Her youngest boy is still worried about getting home in time for 1st grade.

Well it is 2:11 am here and I'm ready for bed.

[Jeffrey555]

They are at camp and I am back at work for the weekend.

Will rejoin them at camp on Tuesday. They already want more hotdogs (soy), Apparently even vegetarians cook over a campfire.

That scene from Blazing Saddles comes to mind.

[FallingLlama]

*sighofreliefsmilie*
I just checked the original post in this thread, wondering if the Aug. 19th cookout also involved soy hotdogs.

Is there anything I should bring along with me to cookout? At the moment I'm planning to leave work early (with this much notice I should be able to do it) -- meaning about 4:00 instead of 6:00 -- and should be there. I'm also bringing a Rent-a-Kid (the daughter of a friend, celebrating her 12th birthday on the 23rd, the trip to Hershey and weekend with me my gift to her), assuming that Dena's eldest would probably prefer to ride roller coasters with someone closer to his age, so that they can laugh at us older folks.

Jeffrey, closer to the time I'll need directions to your house. On Saturday I can find my way to Hershey by myself.

[Dux]

*sighofreliefsmilie*
I just checked the original post in this thread, wondering if the Aug. 19th cookout also involved soy hotdogs.

Is there anything I should bring along with me to cookout? At the moment I'm planning to leave work early (with this much notice I should be able to do it) -- meaning about 4:00 instead of 6:00 -- and should be there. I'm also bringing a Rent-a-Kid (the daughter of a friend, celebrating her 12th birthday on the 23rd, the trip to Hershey and weekend with me my gift to her), assuming that Dena's eldest would probably prefer to ride roller coasters with someone closer to his age, so that they can laugh at us older folks.

Jeffrey, closer to the time I'll need directions to your house. On Saturday I can find my way to Hershey by myself.

How old are Dena/DL's kids?

[Jeffrey555]

*sighofreliefsmilie*
I just checked the original post in this thread, wondering if the Aug. 19th cookout also involved soy hotdogs.

Is there anything I should bring along with me to cookout? At the moment I'm planning to leave work early (with this much notice I should be able to do it) -- meaning about 4:00 instead of 6:00 -- and should be there. I'm also bringing a Rent-a-Kid (the daughter of a friend, celebrating her 12th birthday on the 23rd, the trip to Hershey and weekend with me my gift to her), assuming that Dena's eldest would probably prefer to ride roller coasters with someone closer to his age, so that they can laugh at us older folks.

Jeffrey, closer to the time I'll need directions to your house. On Saturday I can find my way to Hershey by myself.

No need to bring anything but your appetite. If you want to bring something, surprize us. We are planning on making kabobs and will have everything laid out so you can assemble your own with only what you want on them.

Directions and courier service when you need them.

[Jeffrey555]

How old are Dena/DL's kids?

The younger one starts first grade this year.The other one is a year or two older.

[Purrrdit]

This is Dragonlady, who can no longer remember her own password. :laugh: And cannot access my email from here so it would be useless to send it to me too. :eek: :blush:

Anyhow, my boys loved camping and they are 6 & 7.5 years old. Other than ds#1's experiencing his first wasp stinging today, they loved it and are a nice shade of brown. Me... I am a nice shade of red with freckles. :ouch:

[Purrrdit]

I intend to have beef and chicken cubes for the shish-ka-bobs, soy hotdogs will also be available to cook normal or cube for anyone wanting them on their shish-ka-bobs. I intend to have onion, pepper, zucchini, sweet potato, broccoli, cauliflower, tomatos, carrots, mushrooms, and rutabagas for veg. I welcome any other suggestions!

[Dux]

About what time do you want us to show up on Friday?

<----is getting excited! :hopping:

[Purpura]

Hope Y'all have fun :) Tell DL's Dear Son #1 He can tell people in school when it starts again. He can write about it in one of those "What Did I do This Summer" assignments. Glad he is OK. Hugs to DL and family from :fiend: daughter Purpura and Clbeilby

[FallingLlama]

<---- also getting excited!!
:bouncy: :bouncy: :bouncy:

I'll call this weekend for directions.

Dux, did you find a hotel/motel yet? I can offer some suggestions in the area if you haven't already (lower cost, yet still within good range of both Jeffrey/Purrdit and Hershey)

DO you all have any discount coupons for park? I have several for $3 off regular and $2 off child admissions for Saturdays.

[Dux]

We haven't even looked into yet. It's on hubby's list of "things to do" :roll:. We'll probably end up at a Marriot property of some sort, cuz we have lots of points with them - but any suggestions I can pass onto Mike would definitely be helpful. I was going to check at Costco this week about the tickets - they usually have discount ones, if that falls through I'll let you know and take you up on the discounts you have. :ok:

I am thinking about the possibility of getting a combo Hershey PArk/Dutch Wonderland ticket - I may be going there later in the week with a couple of neighbors.

[Jeffrey555]

The Giant grocery stores have the lowest price tickets even if you have coupons.

[Dux]

Good to know - I'll check our local store. If they don't have them, we can always get them from the Giant in Dillsburg (Dillsberg?). I think that's on the way.

[Jeffrey555]

Show up at my home anytime Friday after the sun is up. We'll find something to do.

[blueyedragon]

Hello. I will be at Gather.

[FallingLlama]

hello every one this is george the son of perrdet and jeffrey555 i will now be at the gather to from what they have told me this will be grate. so come and meat us and have fun.

You know that if they read this, your parents will make you review it for spelling errors. . .

I'm glad I'll be seeing you again, George! Actually, I'm still trying to figure out where I met you before we met in Newport. Were you ever in Odyssey of the Mind?

[Jeffrey555]

When I get home he is going to edit that post.

[Purpura]

BlueEyedDragon roast... I can sense it coming... Meat over a Grate :) :devil:

[Purrrdit]

:rofl: :applause: :applause: :applause: I started by telling him he had to fix it while I laughed and explained the errors. He wasn't too concerned... Then I read down and saw Jeff was already on it. THEN I saw Purpura's post "BlueEyedDragon roast... I can sense it coming... Meat over a Grate" :ok: :applause: :bouncy: :laugh: :rofl2: :rofl2: :rofl2: :rofl2: THANKS Purpura!!! Now he is fighting with me to get on here and make his corrections!

[blueyedragon]

:shhh: what are you talking about:heartbeat

[Purrrdit]

Like he doesn't know we are talking about:

Quote:
Originally Posted by blueyedragon
hello every one this is george the son of perrdet and jeffrey555 i will now be at the gather to from what they have told me this will be grate. so come and meat us and have fun.

Only a teen ager would think he could erase most of the old post and make it all go away. Thanks FallingLlama for originally quoting it!

[blueyedragon]

:eek: I posted nothing like that.:bouncy: :bouncy: :bouncy: :bouncy:

[FallingLlama]

So what was quoted in my post above?

[Jeffrey555]

Falling Llama,

Bring a big stick with you to the gather. My semi-literate son is now as big as I am. But not near as tough.

[Jeffrey555]

OK people. This is on Friday for a meal and games at my home and Saturday at Hershey park. Does anyone need directions.

Did I mention a fire lizard egg hunt with cheezy prizes? And I will be making home made baked goodies - possibly even bubbly pies.

:birthdayg :cake: :wine: :pint: :klah: :hopping: :coffee: :ketchup: :cookie: :frolic: :woohoo: :choc: :stir:

[Dux]

*raises hand* I need an addy.

There is now a chance we won't be joining you at Hershey on Saturday :cry: But we should be to Jeff's by 2pm on Friday. :hopping:

[Purrrdit]

Dux, I sent address and info to you by E-mail yesterday. Please let me know if you didn't get it. :O

[FallingLlama]

Hopefully this will post without shutting down my access to NKT :roll: --
I must work on Friday, but will head straight for your house, Jeffrey and Purrdit, and should arrive by 5:00.

Dux, no Hershey? :sad:

I was going to bake something, but this is the last week of camp and extremely busy, so that won't happen. However, I will be bringing surprises and my camera!

[Dux]

Pasta salad made and cake is currently baking. Children have been bathed and I'm getting very :bouncy:

There are a few things that are affecting what happens on Saturday. It's not a definite no. We'll know a lot better on Friday.

[Dux]

Oh, and I got the PM - Thanks Purr!

[Purrrdit]

FallingLlama
I'll send an E-mail also, but I wanted to let you know that I goofed on directions! I keep forgetting that they build new houses on Bower Rd. Comming from your direction; When you turn off of Reiber's Church you will pass additional new homes I forgot to count. After you pass a yellow trailer and sheds on the left we are the 4th driveway on the rt.:blush:


OH BOY IT'S almost TOMMORROW!!!!! :eek: :bouncy: :wave:

Dux,
How many children are you bringing. Need to know for egg hunt.

[Dux]

2 kids - ages 2 1/2 and 4. Both kids are really looking forward to the Egg Hunt - are you allotting a certain number of eggs per kid?

We'll probably call you guys from the road as we get close, that is if Mike doesn't decide to call you before we leave to double check directions.

<---- is getting kind of giddy too! :hopping:

[FallingLlama]

FallingLlama
I'll send an E-mail also, but I wanted to let you know that I goofed on directions! I keep forgetting that they build new houses on Bower Rd. Comming from your direction; When you turn off of Reiber's Church you will pass additional new homes I forgot to count. After you pass a yellow trailer and sheds on the left we are the 4th driveway on the rt.:blush:

Tis alright -- I've changed it on the MapQuest printout.

At least you didn't tell me "Go to where the Pig's Ear (old bar) used to be (burned down in 1978) and then right next to that tree where the Curry boy crashed his motorcycle (1979), make a right. . ." (true directions that have been given to my house :roll: )


OH BOY IT'S almost TOMMORROW!!!!! :eek: :bouncy: :wave:

It is tomorrow!!!!! :bouncy: :bouncy: :bouncy:
Yes, it's raining, but that isn't going to stop me from being excited!

See you all later!

[Faren]

Have a great time, y'all!!:bouncy:

[Dux]

In case this gets checked - we're leaving right now! Should be there between 4 and 4:30!

[Dux]

Just got home from the Gather - what a great time! Too tired for details right now. Lots of pics taken. FallingLlama will prolly get hers posted before I do.

:yawn: :D

[Dux]

We had a great time yesterday At Jeffrey555 and Purrdit's place. BlueEyedDragon, GreenDena/DragonLady, Falling Llama and myself were the KT attendees - along with a bunch of family members and other friends. There was a Fire-lizard egg hunt for the kids and a Fire-lizard clutch hunt for the adults. There were giftees for eveyone - I came home with a hat with a dragon on it (okay it's really a teradactyl). Ryan has laid claim to the hat and went for a walk around the neighborhood this morning to show everyone. The other kids around us were very impressed with it :good: . FallingLlama brought some Gloppy stuff for the kids to play with (some of the adults :erm: okay, me played with it to). Lots of yummy foods - we kabobbed all kinds of meats and veggies then had some dessert. Kids ran wild all over the place. We had beautiful weather (well it rained a little in the morning, but by the time we got together the rain had stopped and it was comfortable to stay outside).

DragonLady and I got a kick at how well her youngest and my oldest hit it off! Best indicator of how good a time we had was the first words out of Ryan's mouth this morning were: "can we go back to Jeff's house? I'm not done having fun there." - BTW, he told everyone when he showed them the hat, that he got it from Jeff's house. I have a feeling the words "Jeff's House" are going to be a part of many conversations over the next few days :laugh:

Today the rest of the group went off to Hershey Park (we couldn't make it :( )

I'm sure I've forgotten something but I really am so glad we did this - and we will need to do it again!!!

[Dux]

I forgot to mention the "Doggie Bags" sent home from Jeff and Purrdit's. I came home with fruit salad (gone), cucumber salad (gone) and chocolate cake (gone). :D

There's still a few of the :choc: left - though many fell victim to the ride home. :D :D

[Dawn]

I'm glad everyone had a good time. :ok: Can't wait for pictures. :bouncy:

[Faren]

Sounds like a fantastic time!! I wonder if Jeffrey plans on bringing some goodies to D*C???*hint hint*:disguise:

[FallingLlama]

Jeffrey bring goodies to D*Con? Doesn't he always? He didn't make bubblies for this Gather (no time), but did bake a delicious apple pie, and added to pineapple upside down cake and Dux's triple chocolate cake, there were definitely plenty of dessert orders of "ALL!"

I wanted to post photos yesterday morning, but had no internet service. The initial photo -- against my better judgment -- is posted: http://groups.msn.com/ClanFiend/gathers2005.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=477
I will post more later, but am still editing, and want to clear the kid photos with Dux and Dena first!

As to HersheyPark: exhausting. . . fun. . . perfect! We'd definitely do it again! I'll post more particulars of that later -- if Jeffrey555, Purrrdit, or Blue-Eyed Dragon don't beat me to it (but don't trust Blue-Eyed Dragon's accounts -- probably not accurate)

[FallingLlama]

BTW, the "Gloppy stuff" is flubber. I had a container of Jeffrey's, figured that he can bake better than I can anyhow, so filled it with my specialty -- and it definitely kept the kids occupied during those final preparations for kabobs.

Donna just informed me that Dena's eldest kept referring to her as "the Fallen Llama." She kept telling him, "no, I'm the other one." In our class, she was often "the other Vickie" and I was "the other Donna," so it's only reasonable for her to be "the other Llama."

[Jeffrey555]

Sounds like a fantastic time!! I wonder if Jeffrey plans on bringing some goodies to D*C???*hint hint*:disguise:

As a matter of fact, I am planning to bring goodies. But not the wife's version of redfruit.

[FallingLlama]

As a matter of fact, I am planning to bring goodies. But not the wife's version of redfruit.

It tasted delicious -- even though it wasn't my idea of redfruit.

[Jeffrey555]

Jeffrey bring goodies to D*Con? Doesn't he always?

(but don't trust Green-Eyed Dragon's accounts -- probably not accurate)

This will be my first D Con. Other than the rat poison.


I do not know a green-eyed dragon. Blue Eyed Dragon refused to win me a stuffed dragon at Hershey park.

[FallingLlama]

This will be my first D Con. Other than the rat poison.


I do not know a green-eyed dragon. Blue Eyed Dragon refused to win me a stuffed dragon at Hershey park.

:angel: What green-eyed dragon?

Just an update:
Our big "adventure" at Hersheypark was being able to see Jeffrey in action as a firefighter (ok, not fighting fires, but doing firemanly-type duties). After about 11 hours of hiking the hills of the park, Blue-Eyed Dragon, Jeffrey, Purrrdit, and Chenoa were on the bumper cars while Donna and I guarded the luggage (yes, luggage -- some people truly do enter amusement parks prepared for any contingency). As they were exiting the ride, Chenoa started to run toward us, and started crying, with a very bad cramp in her leg. Massage didn't help, so Jeffrey slung her across his back in a fireman's carry (ok, a piggy-back ride) and was her transportation for the remainder of the trip. Oh, yeah -- Purrrdit showed she could do it as well when she escorted Chen to the restroom, and Blue-Eyed Dragon was required to give Dena's youngest a similar ride.

Anyhow, the "cramp' had not abated when we arrived home, and is still bothering her after a long sleep (though she can now almost walk as long as she keeps weight on her heel), so today she's off to the ER to have it checked -- just in case. We'll let everyone know how it goes!

[Dux]

Oh no! Tell Chen we're all thinking about her.


Ryan wore the Yellow Dragonhat to Church today. :D

[FallingLlama]

Oh no! Tell Chen we're all thinking about her.


Ryan wore the Yellow Dragonhat to Church today. :D

Yellow Dragonhat! (http://groups.msn.com/ClanFiend/gathers2005.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=479)

[FallingLlama]

Ok, I talked to Donna, and the doctor's verdict on Chenoa is . . . a severe cramp. Yep. With severe ones, the pain can persist for several days. He feels that it was brought about by heat exhaustion and possibly dehydration. Now she must lay around for several days, staying cool in the air conditioning, and being waited on hand and foot.

Dux, Dena, and Jeffrey/Purrrdit -- I tried to PM and to e-mail, only to be locked out of NKT for several hours. I'm not sure why neither will work for me (though I can usually reply to PMs). At any rate, I have a URL to give you so that you can all view photos and give me the go-ahead to post them. Contact me!

[Purrrdit]

:cry: Chenoa, We are so sorry to hear that the cramp didn't release for so long!:(

FallingLlama, :bouncy: :bouncy: :good: GreenDena/DragonLady and Jeff and I have no problem with you posting any pictures of us or the kids! :applause: THANKS for everything we really had fun with all of you!!! It was great having someone who enjoyed the big rides to share them with!:bow:

[Dux]

ditto for us - you can post the pics!

[Jeffrey555]

Btw, that is a Dux hat, not a dragon hat.

And I personally thought it looked good on Dux.

The fire lizard egg hunts work better at a real beach but we made do. Even if Purrrdit did keep trying to ruin it with her suggestions. She can run her own egg hunts if she doesn't like how I do it, so there.

[FallingLlama]

Purrrdit, we'll have to go back and do those rides again -- and this time StormRunner really will be our first ride, so that we don't have to wait for an hour (though it was worth it!). Thank you for all of the goodies and for organizing all of this -- and for carrying Chenoa all over the park!

Hmm. . . I really should call and see how she's doing, shouldn't I?

[Dux]

Btw, that is a Dux hat, not a dragon hat.

And I personally thought it looked good on Dux.

The fire lizard egg hunts work better at a real beach but we made do. Even if Purrrdit did keep trying to ruin it with her suggestions. She can run her own egg hunts if she doesn't like how I do it, so there.

Actually, Ryan hasn't let me get anywhere near the hat. He's still talking about "Jeff's House". We went for a drive today past a wooded area, he immediately piped up from the backseat "this looks like where Jeff's house is. Are we going back there? Can we go back there?"

[Jeffrey555]

I think I'll wait till we move to Florida before scheduling another gather and make it pot luck.

But you all saw how easy it is. Only two years of planning and several days of frantic setup. Anyone can host a gather.

[Earthmother]

How is everyone? Chen? Dux and family? fallinglama?

We miss you guys. Youngest is still talking about the jungle and how much he loved it there. Oldest is talking about Hershy's Park and how he bets he is tall enough to be a twizzler now. :laugh: :eek: