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moonbay
26th August 2005, 12:55 AM
ok so when u are growing up and your parents think about u every min. mostly when u are a teen how many times do they hesatate to say u may go out with him or yes u may have a boyfriend.

and how many times does she let you see him even if u are all grown up they are still watching.:)

Priscilla
26th August 2005, 01:46 AM
I think it depends on how old you are, how dependable you've been in the past, and how dependable the boyfriend (or girlfriend) is. You're right, parents never stop watching/caring about their kids, not if they're decent parents. My "kids" are 19 and 22. I treat them as adults. They have earned that right. Our daughter is the older. She's finishing college and her boyfriend lives with us, so yes, we do see them every day, if that's what you could call "watching" them. But we don't tell them what to do. If they ask for advice or opinions we give them. I suppose not every family is like ours, but it works for us!

Shazza's Back
26th August 2005, 02:52 AM
I have a daughter a little older than you, Moonbay. She has had one boyfriend but they were only really going out at school. They went to the movies in a group once and he came over here a couple of times and she went to his place once. (Okay so it wasn't really just at school) We parents tend to want to protect our kids and really I would not be letting my daughter go out at night at this age.

It really varies from parent to parent. There is no clear cut rules on when a kid/young adult should have a boyfriend. Until you guys come with instruction manuals its gonna stay that way, I'm afraid.

Milo
26th August 2005, 03:44 AM
If I were a parent, it would depend on the boyfriend.

Bronze-Dragonrider
26th August 2005, 10:42 AM
I agree with the above posts. A good parent will always try to look out for their kids, and keep an eye on them. I know at that age a person would feel uncomfortable with all that and just want to have time with a gf/bf just by yourselfs and want to be independant, but a parent needs to know you *can* be trusted to be alone, and after some time of supervision and they are able to trust you with that and know you're mature enough to handle it, then they should let you have a little more leeway.

But don't feel too bad Moonbay, I'm 17 and STILL not allowed to date :laugh:

Keita
26th August 2005, 11:03 AM
I'm allowed to but it's usually not worth the trouble it causes to inform the parents that I do...:roll:

Keita
26th August 2005, 11:04 AM
:laugh: The BorgLady encourages me to "bring home a girl" but when I do...:laugh: Oh well. Better just to NOT bring them home and date on the side! :D

pern_queen_rider
27th August 2005, 01:33 AM
I agree with the above posts. A good parent will always try to look out for their kids, and keep an eye on them. I know at that age a person would feel uncomfortable with all that and just want to have time with a gf/bf just by yourselfs and want to be independant, but a parent needs to know you *can* be trusted to be alone, and after some time of supervision and they are able to trust you with that and know you're mature enough to handle it, then they should let you have a little more leeway.

But don't feel too bad Moonbay, I'm 17 and STILL not allowed to date :laugh:
I can't date till I'm 24.

Priscilla
27th August 2005, 01:53 AM
That's an interesting number. Any special reason for 24? You'll be legally an adult at 18, if you go away to college by then you'll be far away from home (potentially) and I'd say it'd be nigh on impossible to STOP you from dating if you wanted to by then! Not that I'm trying to undermine rules set down by your family, I'm just curious why the higher age limit?

pern_queen_rider
27th August 2005, 02:38 AM
That's an interesting number. Any special reason for 24? You'll be legally an adult at 18, if you go away to college by then you'll be far away from home (potentially) and I'd say it'd be nigh on impossible to STOP you from dating if you wanted to by then! Not that I'm trying to undermine rules set down by your family, I'm just curious why the higher age limit?at 24, I'll have:

graduated from college,
have a job,
and be mature enough.

*sigh*

Milo
27th August 2005, 07:01 PM
I can't date till I'm 24.
On who's dictate?

pern_queen_rider
27th August 2005, 07:13 PM
On who's dictate?
Mums. read above few posts.

Priscilla
27th August 2005, 07:22 PM
Well, as I said before, if you go away to college no one will be around to watch what you do, and dating could certainly be an option. I don't know how old you are right now, but it does seem to me a bit extreme to expect anyone to wait until they are 24 for a first date?! This seems like the sort of thing to be reviewed periodically, not set in stone at a young age. Unless you've given your parents major reasons not to trust you?! Keeping someone away from the dating scene to "protect" them, in my opinion, isn't doing them any favors. You have to make mistakes, learn and grow, to become an adult!

pern_queen_rider
27th August 2005, 07:48 PM
I know "Cilla.
She just dosen't seem to get it!
Plus, she's going to find to have a very hard tiem to get ahold of me in NZ.

Priscilla
27th August 2005, 10:38 PM
You're going to New Zealand? Wow? For a long time or just on vacation. Can I fit in your suitcase, I'd love to visit there! :roll: Yeah, moms can be wierd. Mine had this unspoken competition with me. Any boyfriend I had she had to monopolize the conversation until they decided she was more interesting (though way too old for them) and they'd lose interest in me and disappear. Lucky for me I finally met my husband and we were on the same "wave length" before she came into the picture! Families. You can't choose the RL ones, and sometimes they're the worst!

pern_queen_rider
27th August 2005, 11:36 PM
Amen to that. Going to NZ for college Cilla, so it'll be interesting to see how tihngs turn out.

If I can find one ibg enough, your welcome to come.

Lily
28th August 2005, 12:42 AM
Amen to that. Going to NZ for college Cilla, so it'll be interesting to see how tihngs turn out.

If I can find one ibg enough, your welcome to come.

OY!!! Us kiwis want to know more Perny!!! TELL

Where
When
Why NZ?
To study what
Do you know anyone here

pern_queen_rider
28th August 2005, 01:19 AM
OY!!! Us kiwis want to know more Perny!!! TELL

Where
When
Why NZ?
To study what
Do you know anyone here
Where: Whatever college accepts me when I apply
When: Whenever I graduate from high school
Why NZ? I want to get out of large nations, and NZ seems nice enough
Not offically, no. Over internet, I know some Kiwis. :D

Shani
28th August 2005, 02:48 AM
Interesting reasons to do that PQ...
What are you planning to study?

pern_queen_rider
28th August 2005, 02:58 AM
Filming.

NZ was one of the top sites used for LOTR and Xena the TV show.

Priscilla
28th August 2005, 01:54 PM
That is very true, the films were made there. Are there film schools/universities in New Zealand that have an emphasis on film making that would make it worth your while going all that distance? I have no idea. It'd certainly be a gorgeous place to live, but if the universities don't offer what you need for a career, you might be better off in another country? Just a thought. I'm sure you can find out (probably already have) pretty easy by checking on the internet! Good luck, anyway!

Ian
28th August 2005, 02:35 PM
NZ is bit of a long way to go, I must admit, however stunning the scenery is! There are colleges/universities over here that do courses in film/media (and I mean proper technical ones, not the dreaded Media Studies!). I did a degree in Media Technology & Production, which included things like screenwriting, photography, audio & video editing, etc. (we even got to make our own TV shows :) ).

And on the 24 thing, your mom can't legally set conditions like that, you're legally an adult at 18 & that's that. OK, while you're still living with her she can set down rules for within her house even then, but outside those 4 walls once you're 18 she can't control what you do (unless US law is very strange!).

Maedhbh
28th August 2005, 03:49 PM
... but outside those 4 walls once you're 18 she can't control what you do (unless US law is very strange!). No, you're right, Ian.
My parents wouldn't let me date til I left home. I was supposed to be able to date when I was 16. <scoffs> <sarcastic tone> Yeah, that happened. Ran into a nice guy at a science fair, and I wasn't allowed to date him. But my brothers got to date whom they wanted, when they wanted. Go figure. Apparently chauvinism still rules. :roll:

pern_queen_rider
28th August 2005, 05:57 PM
No, you're right, Ian.
My parents wouldn't let me date til I left home. I was supposed to be able to date when I was 16. <scoffs> <sarcastic tone> Yeah, that happened. Ran into a nice guy at a science fair, and I wasn't allowed to date him. But my brothers got to date whom they wanted, when they wanted. Go figure. Apparently chauvinism still rules. :roll:
Yeah, I know, figuresss!

Yes there are some decent technical colleges for film there, it' going to be interesting to shee what it's like to be so far away from home.

Heh, what am I saying? I get to meet you kiwis. :D

Ian
28th August 2005, 10:17 PM
Parents are more willing (desperate?) to let go of boys than they are of girls for some reason, despite girls (generally) maturing earlier. Also, at 16 you were still legally a minor & your parents had the right to say yea or nay, my point was that once you turn 18 they're not, apart from in their own house if you still live there.

pern_queen_rider
29th August 2005, 01:05 AM
point in your favor Ian.

moonbay
29th August 2005, 01:39 AM
well 24 is a long time so u can get a boyfriend and well if he is the right one he will stay with u until u get what you what and if not it is his lost and it was not met to be. but there is someone out there willing to what so try to look or spend your whole life wondering what if i had dated some one where would i be today but make sure he is ok and not one of those werid bad men and u would be ok so think about it ok.:)

geishagirl
29th August 2005, 02:38 AM
If I were a parent, it would depend on the boyfriend.
you can't trust any boy:roll: Believe me I KNOW:erm:

geishagirl
29th August 2005, 02:40 AM
well 24 is a long time so u can get a boyfriend and well if he is the right one he will stay with u until u get what you what and if not it is his lost and it was not met to be. but there is someone out there willing to what so try to look or spend your whole life wondering what if i had dated some one where would i be today but make sure he is ok and not one of those werid bad men and u would be ok so think about it ok.:)
Don't waste time on what ifs. You have to look at what is in front of you other wise you'll miss it.;)

geishagirl
29th August 2005, 02:42 AM
Parents are more willing (desperate?) to let go of boys than they are of girls for some reason, despite girls (generally) maturing earlier. Also, at 16 you were still legally a minor & your parents had the right to say yea or nay, my point was that once you turn 18 they're not, apart from in their own house if you still live there.
I think it has to do with the fact we see females as the weaker sex. Which in some cases I would have to agree

moonbay
30th August 2005, 01:25 AM
not even females in a lot of things are just as good as a male but hard work the men so females but when it come to the brains it is all on the girls.:)

moonbay
30th August 2005, 01:26 AM
and sometimes what if's are a good thimg they are not always bad.:)

Milo
30th August 2005, 04:38 AM
you can't trust any boy:roll: Believe me I KNOW:erm:
Some more than others, though. :angel:

pern_queen_rider
30th August 2005, 11:05 AM
Some more than others, though. :angel:
Yep. That is, Ian, WOlfegar, on-on, mehlo, H...etc

Milo
31st August 2005, 06:01 AM
Yep. That is, Ian, WOlfegar, on-on, mehlo, H...etc
Actually, sadly, you can't trust any of us. This is the internet, Puqer, we could be anybody, or anything. I COULD be a sixteen (almost seventeen... whoa) year old aspiring actor peace junkie, but I could also be a 47 year old pedophile.

Sad, 'innit? :shake:

Lily
31st August 2005, 09:43 PM
(laughs at the thought of C'milo being a DoM)

He's far too cute

:O :heartbeat :wave: :kiss:

Bronze-Dragonrider
31st August 2005, 09:56 PM
Actually, sadly, you can't trust any of us. This is the internet, Puqer, we could be anybody, or anything. I COULD be a sixteen (almost seventeen... whoa) year old aspiring actor peace junkie, but I could also be a 47 year old pedophile.

Sad, 'innit? :shake:
So even if we all met at a gather and saw each other in the flesh, we still couldn't be trusted because we're really creepy ol' guys with no life who happen to look like teenagers? :roll:

Don't answer that... :erm:

Milo
31st August 2005, 11:37 PM
So even if we all met at a gather and saw each other in the flesh, we still couldn't be trusted because we're really creepy ol' guys with no life who happen to look like teenagers? :roll:

Don't answer that... :erm:
Botox.

But seriously. I've never met anybody on this board, and while I have a decent faith in humanity, I can't expect everybody to believe that I am who I am.

After all, the pictures I post of myself could all be taken from my "private collection" right? I guess I'm just saying that you can't be to careful.

moonbay
1st September 2005, 12:10 AM
ok so how many of u dated when u were 16?:)

Milo
1st September 2005, 02:22 AM
*raises hand*

pern_queen_rider
1st September 2005, 02:52 AM
Can't anwser that yet. Ask next July.

JessieM
1st September 2005, 03:10 AM
My mother lets me have a b/f but the thing is i can't go anywere with him unless i am in a group of three or more, Man that really suxs though its cool coz most people have to wait until there 16 so my mum roxs!

Bronze-Dragonrider
1st September 2005, 04:42 PM
ok so how many of u dated when u were 16?:)
Ummm *half raises hand* It didn't really count... :erm:

moonbay
2nd September 2005, 12:02 AM
ok so jesse how old are u? well i have had a lot of b/f but one lived across the street from my aunt well u know i was over there all the time. my mom did not care b/c she knew him so it was ok.:)

moonbay
10th October 2005, 01:28 AM
well i now have a boyfriend and i get to see him all the time and i love it.

Milo
10th October 2005, 04:08 AM
I don't get to see my girlfriend that much cause we live pretty far away from each other and don't go to school together. :irked:

C'est la vie. :roll:

Bronze-Dragonrider
10th October 2005, 07:16 PM
Well, now I have my first true girlfriend :bouncy: :heartbeat It'll be difficult, since it's online and it'll be hard to even get to visit each other since we live so far apart, but she is the most amazing person I've ever known, and I'll put my heart and soul into it to make it work :heart:

Milo
10th October 2005, 07:28 PM
Have you met her in person?

Bronze-Dragonrider
10th October 2005, 11:46 PM
No, I haven't met Kalina in person yet, but we are definitely planning on it, when circumstances allow :D

queenrider melody
11th October 2005, 12:17 AM
No, I haven't met Kalina in person yet, but we are definitely planning on it, when circumstances allow :D
:roll: How did I know that it was her? Oh, yeah, because it's painfully obvious.:roll: :D

Milo
11th October 2005, 03:06 AM
No, I haven't met Kalina in person yet, but we are definitely planning on it, when circumstances allow :D
NOW WAIT JUST A GOSH DARN FRIP FRAPPING MINUTE :irked:

When did I miss this? :eek: :eek: :eek: :faint: :confused:

:laugh:

Bronze-Dragonrider
11th October 2005, 03:14 AM
If you'd ketchuped in the last willet, you would have known! :razz:

Milo
11th October 2005, 03:28 AM
If you'd ketchuped in the last willet, you would have known! :razz:
I saw something about you guys having a tumble in the tackroom, but I thought it was just a fling. :cat2:

Bronze-Dragonrider
11th October 2005, 05:36 AM
You gotta be more careful with your Ketchup ;) From post 439 of WLT: Pit Fun with Kalina and Bane:
It's so great to be able to come out with this, finally! Tonight Kalina and I had been having a good talk, and it came up in conversation that my mom thought that we were in a relationship. We weren't... so far we had just been friends, but I had been thinking about it for a long time, but I didn't want to make her uncomfortable or ruin the friendship we had, so I never said anything. Anyway, I told her what my mom said, and Kalina said that she had thought about it before... so that really let things open up for us, and we realized that we both had felt the same way for each other and held back for the same reasons. So now we are very happy to annouce that we are together at last! :bouncy: Thank you so much, Kalina :heartbeat

Post 440: Awwwww... you're such a sweetie!!! :hugs:

'Tis true! We've been chatting for a while, even talked on the phone, and you'd be amazed at how much we have in common!!

I'd actually be surprised if some of you hadn't suspected something with the way we treat each other in here... we just didn't know what was behind it, yet :D ;) Suffice it to say, I'm rather giddy at the moment :laugh:

:cookie: for everyone!!! Oh yeah, and :klah: or :pint: if you prefer :D

So it is much more than a fling :heartbeat

Milo
11th October 2005, 05:12 PM
Well in that case... ooh la la :kiss:

Stupid WeWoKa! Stealing my mans!:evil: :faint: :D

Bronze-Dragonrider
11th October 2005, 05:29 PM
:laugh:

*reads whited text* Whaaaaaat?! :runaway:

Apocalypse
11th October 2005, 05:53 PM
Don't waste time on what ifs. You have to look at what is in front of you other wise you'll miss it.;)

So true! :ok:

Apocalypse
11th October 2005, 05:56 PM
Actually, sadly, you can't trust any of us. This is the internet, Puqer, we could be anybody, or anything. I COULD be a sixteen (almost seventeen... whoa) year old aspiring actor peace junkie, but I could also be a 47 year old pedophile.

Sad, 'innit? :shake:

Very scary prospect, but sadly true :( Mind you, he could also be a 17yr old pedophile too? :evil:

Apocalypse
11th October 2005, 05:59 PM
NOW WAIT JUST A GOSH DARN FRIP FRAPPING MINUTE :irked:

When did I miss this? :eek: :eek: :eek: :faint: :confused:

:laugh:

:rofl: Even I know that and I'm so far out of the loop I'm in the square on the next planet!

And incidentally, I would've been allowed todate at 16 had I been interested in any of the boys I knew... :roll:

Maybe you should all tell your parents that waiting to date until you're in the 20's only leads to marriage to men who are 15+yrs older than their daughters? :evil:

Milo
11th October 2005, 06:12 PM
Very scary prospect, but sadly true :( Mind you, he could also be a 17yr old pedophile too? :evil:
Hmmm... I don't think so. I could be wrong, but I believe that by definition a pedophile is an adult that is attracted to children.

Bronze-Dragonrider
11th October 2005, 09:17 PM
In the strict sense of the word, you're correct. But I think it could also loosely be applied to anyone who is not a child, (16/17 for example is definitely not a child) being attracted to a 7 year old, perhaps.

Milo
11th October 2005, 11:36 PM
In the strict sense of the word, you're correct. But I think it could also loosely be applied to anyone who is not a child, (16/17 for example is definitely not a child) being attracted to a 7 year old, perhaps.
Oh, yeah I agree with you there. I was being technical :redfruit:

Lady Arwyn
11th October 2005, 11:46 PM
Parents are more willing (desperate?) to let go of boys than they are of girls for some reason, despite girls (generally) maturing earlier.
Because boys don't get pregnant and end up moving home with the baby, quitting school and ruining their lives :roll:

Parents tend to forget that there is another side to that pregnancy

ok so how many of u dated when u were 16?:)
I did. I think I was 13 when I went on my first date.

Hmmm... I don't think so. I could be wrong, but I believe that by definition a pedophile is an adult that is attracted to children.
Pedophile generally refers to attraction to pre-pubescent or early pubescent children. Ie, a person not yet sexually mature.

moonbay
11th October 2005, 11:56 PM
well yes 13 is ok to have a boyfriend but these days do u think it is ok to really go out on a date well me being13 i think i am to young i have a boyfriend he is 16 and i love him very much but i will what until i am 16 to date him.:)

Lady Arwyn
12th October 2005, 12:11 AM
I always dated older guys. Guys my age were so... immature. My first bf was 3 years older, second was 4 years older. I don't think I ever had a boyfriend closer than 3 years in age to me. My husband is 7 years older (I was 20 when we married... 16 years ago).

Milo
12th October 2005, 12:14 AM
Hmmm... my first girlfriend was 6 months older, my current 2.

Weyrwoman Kalina
12th October 2005, 12:46 AM
:roll: How did I know that it was her? Oh, yeah, because it's painfully obvious.:roll: :D

:rofl2: Was it THAT obvious before we even confirmed it ourselves? :D

Well in that case... ooh la la :kiss:

Stupid WeWoKa! Stealing my mans!:evil: :faint: :D


MINE!!!! *weilds SPTs* :goodevil: :evil:

queenrider melody
12th October 2005, 01:22 AM
:rofl2: Was it THAT obvious before we even confirmed it ourselves? :D




MINE!!!! *weilds SPTs* :goodevil: :evil:
It's the way you act around each other, even in the Spam thread.

Anareth
12th October 2005, 01:59 AM
I was 18 when I had my first date. Not because of my parents, but because I had no desire to date any of the guys from high school. (A guy I met at Project Bentley, a one-week political camp for select high school juniors, asked me to his prom, but as he lived nine hours away they did nix that one on practical grounds.)

Be careful on the "I'm an adult, I can do what I want" stunt, as it works both ways--yes, you're legally adult and can therefore behave as you like. It also means your parents no longer have any legal obligation to provide any sort of financial assitance to you at all. So if they decide they're mad enough, once you're eighteen they can completely kick you to the curb and the only possible way they could be held to anything is if they cosigned for college loans or your tuition agreement. Food, clothes, shelter, etc? You're adult, you can do what you want, including pay for those. Just sayin', that argument can bite you in the butt.

And moonbay, I'm sorry, but...the word is "you." It doesn't take any more effort to hit those other two keys, and you look substantially less like an illiterate text-messaging teen when you do. Possibly I'm channeling Debby today, but there's also a shift key and several interesting ones that produce marks like , and ? and can therefore be used to punctuate sentences. If my child typed like that (not that I'm old enough to have a sixteen-year-old, but that's beside the point) they wouldn't be worried about dating, they'd be sitting down with Mavis Beacon and learning to write like an adult first.

Milo
12th October 2005, 02:03 AM
Anareth: there's an old program called "Ultrakey" that blows mavis beacon out of the water. :D

moonbay
12th October 2005, 03:03 AM
well not a thing wrong with being older than u are as long as not to old so if it is like more than years than something is wrong.

Weyrwoman Kalina
12th October 2005, 08:34 AM
It's the way you act around each other, even in the Spam thread.

Hmmm... so it was that obvious. :laugh:

skysong
12th October 2005, 08:50 PM
I was 18 when I had my first date. Not because of my parents, but because I had no desire to date any of the guys from high school.

I am 19 and I have not been on a date. In high school, I also had no desire to date any of the guys.
Be really careful about meeting people online. I talked to someone one of my friends had met in person, but he turned out to be creepy, a jerk, and have some really bad issues that he needed to deal with before he dated.
Right now I am in college and dating is on the back burner.

queenrider melody
13th October 2005, 12:09 AM
Hmmm... so it was that obvious. :laugh:
Pretty much, yeah.:D I had just thought that you two really did like each other that way, I just didn't find out that you two actually were 'together' until I read this thread.;)

Weyrwoman Kalina
17th October 2005, 03:13 AM
Pretty much, yeah.:D I had just thought that you two really did like each other that way, I just didn't find out that you two actually were 'together' until I read this thread.;)


:D Hmm.. you don't really visit the Willet or chat, so I guess this WOULD be the only other way, wouldn't it? heh

queenrider melody
17th October 2005, 03:58 AM
:D Hmm.. you don't really visit the Willet or chat, so I guess this WOULD be the only other way, wouldn't it? heh
I stopped coming to the willet because there was too much to :ketchup: on, but I think that I should go to the chat...

Weyrwoman Kalina
17th October 2005, 04:28 AM
I stopped coming to the willet because there was too much to :ketchup: on, but I think that I should go to the chat...

The willet can get to be a bit too much sometimes, I agree. There was even a point I missed about 6 or so because I didn't want to deal with it.

But chat is MUCH easier :D