Sharding low standards.

[Milo]

Yes, pick your jaw off the floor, I'm about to complain about my high grades.

I got an A in english. 95% which is the highest this guy gives. Now... I think I am fully capable of getting a 95, but the fact is, this essay wasn't so great.

In his comments he gushed praise. "You should be an A.C.L.U. Lawyer".

This is college for petes sake. MAKE US WORK DAMMIT!

:roll:

[Zei]

:blankbadgerettesmilie:

Dude.

Never complain about this stuff.

Ever.

[Milo]

:blankbadgerettesmilie:

Dude.

Never complain about this stuff.

Ever.
I'm just getting started.

Now I have to rag on myself for getting a B in my chemistry test. :irked:

[Bronze-Dragonrider]

I understand where you're coming from. While it's good that you got praise, it's when the teachers are throwing out ecstatic praise all the time and not focusing on areas to improve... like you said, MAKE US WORK! Praise is good in small doses. Too much and it could lead to students getting lazy or big-headed, thinking that they don't ned to work as hard and that they can just glide through easily.

[Zei]

I understand where you're coming from. While it's good that you got praise, it's when the teachers are throwing out ecstatic praise all the time and not focusing on areas to improve... like you said, MAKE US WORK! Praise is good in small doses. Too much and it could lead to students getting lazy or big-headed, thinking that they don't ned to work as hard and that they can just glide through easily.

:cry: LIES. YOU TELL LIES! :evil:

I'll be honest. I'm lazy. I hate doing work. Screw it if I get a 95 - that's passing, I don't need to further myself any more.

[Priscilla]

I have to agree with Bronze and C_milo here. While it may look great on a transcript to have a bunch of A's, if the teachers/professors are handing those out because the school "tells" them to in order not to make waves with the parents who are paying the high tuitions, they're doing no one any favors.

[geishagirl]

At first glance I thought this would have been a thread posted by Bronzie. Never heard C'Milo say "sharding" before. Anyway, I agree with Priscilla who agrees with Bronzie and C'Milo. If we have doctors who got through Uni because the teachers don't want to make waves then i would worry about our health and who was tending to it!!:eek:

[dae]

wow i though my teachers are bad, though all they do is say good work no matter what you do. (such ass me hows only just passing one class because the teacher doesn't seem to want to teacher me even if i ask. but giving out high marks and not telling how to do better. (mabye thats what they were taught in school.):redfruit:

[C_ris]

Grades should be given because they are deserved by the work. No other reason should exist.

[Berd]

At my college, the professors doing general classes have to give 10% of the class A's. Otherwise, they will go on acedemic probation and the college forces the professor to curve grades. Most of the general classes have over 150 students, though so it shouldn't be that tough to get 10% A's without curving, but that rarely happens.
I had gen. bio class of around 200 students, and only 6 of us would have had A's. We use the 90-80-70-60 scale, too! It was curved down to an 88, which wasn't that bad. I thought the tests were really easy, though.

[Milo]

Clarification: It's not the school "policy". It's the individual teachers. My poli sci teacher, for isntance, has pretty decent standards.

But english. :headbang:

[Alchemy]

I had a professor do something to me in college: my second year, first wuarter I had him for a class, worked my butt off and got As on all my papers. I did 5 papers, wonderful papers each and every one of them, and he was a hard grader. Had him in second quarter, third year, and my first paper was kind of crappy, this class was being taken pass/fail so I reallly wasn't caring TOO much. It was a C paper. I got an A. A classmate, who did a great job, worked long and hard, got a B. I slacked on each of the rest of my papers and got As for C work.

Its like, after having me the first time, he automatically slapped an A on there without reading them. Its kind of depressing. The class only had 10 people in it, and he only taught one other class that only had a midterm and a final that quarter, plus he had a TA for that class, and 10 for his 200 student other class. Oh well.

[Anareth]

Heh. Sounds like my high school. And at this school. And yes, even when you EARN the As, after a while you get tired of hearing how good/clever/whatever it is, especially when you know it was a half-assed effort.

Now, at my universities, they could fail anyone they wanted to, especially at W&L. We joke that a B there is an A at any major University, but it's actually rather true. A prof MIGHT get in trouble if he failed almost everyone, but if no one in the class got an A and students or parents complained, unless there was a GLARINGLY obvious teaching problem, the admin would likely say "Boo-hoo, life sucks, get a helmet."

[HarperBrandyAlexander]

:cry: LIES. YOU TELL LIES! :evil:

I'll be honest. I'm lazy. I hate doing work. Screw it if I get a 95 - that's passing, I don't need to further myself any more.

I hear ya sister.

[I LOVE Dashboard]

Yes, pick your jaw off the floor, I'm about to complain about my high grades.

I got an A in english. 95% which is the highest this guy gives. Now... I think I am fully capable of getting a 95, but the fact is, this essay wasn't so great.

In his comments he gushed praise. "You should be an A.C.L.U. Lawyer".

This is college for petes sake. MAKE US WORK DAMMIT!

:roll:

I WOULD NOT complain about that.

[Jesserli]

I don't know where you go, but here, NO ONE gets As. Especially in my English class. I don't think I've gotten above a B minus on my papers here, and I'm a decent writer. Granted, it's hard to tell how the rest of the university functions, since that's my only non-theatre class, but still.

If I were you, I wouldn't complain! I wish I could get an easy A in at least one of my eleven ( :eek: ) classes.

[Milo]

92% today because I forgot to fix a few techincal errors. :roll:

[leahiniowa]

I remember when I started graduate school at NYU. I had this one professor, and I came home and told Doc, "If I get a B in this class I'm going to be so proud of myself." Ended up with an A-, and had him for my PhD advisor as well (before I dropped out of the program). I think my mind grew more in those three months of that class than in the previous 10 years.

[GoldriderAria]

I'm in agreement, it appears, with the majority here! (And I'm thrilled that most folks seem to agree on this) The grades aren't really worth anything if you don't actually have to work for them and get the information and knowledge they represent. I had the experience of teaching college Freshman Comp for the past two years, and got to witness first hand the shock of many students who had been 'straight A' students in high school, who knew almost 'nothing' about the subject I was teaching! They would come and 'complain' about getting a B, or a C, simply because "I got an A in high school." When I polled my students, I found out many of them only had to read one or two books their entire senior YEAR, and that their senior term papers only had to be three pages long. They'd freak out when I asked them to write 4 or 5 pages. It was truly depressing to see how little they had been offered and taught... and then given As. Their schools did them such a disservice.

It's sad that there are college professors out there that have that mentality as well. Somehow, I always end up with the profs who are the opposite of that. ;) (slave drivers...the lot of them!) But somehow, I enjoy those classes more because I feel like I actually accomplished something. With THOSE teachers I'm perfectly content to get that 'barely A' 90%, cause I feel like I actually earned it.

~Aria

[leahiniowa]

I had the opposite experience once, teaching Freshman comp at NYU. I called a boy in for his first conference, and said, "I suppose you know you're a very gifted writer." He looked at me with this shocked expression and said, "The nuns always gave me C's in writing!"

[GoldriderAria]

I had the opposite experience once, teaching Freshman comp at NYU. I called a boy in for his first conference, and said, "I suppose you know you're a very gifted writer." He looked at me with this shocked expression and said, "The nuns always gave me C's in writing!"

Nice! :)

I only had that kind of situation happen a couple of times, unfortunately. Oklahoma isn't a hot-bed of high academic standards in a lot of the small towns unfortunately. Makes me miss the Coast. I'm having to teach college freshmen stuff I learned as a high school freshman! Which isn't to say I don't get a lot of really good students. They just haven't been taught alot of things they should already have at least some kind of grasp of (like how to write a thesis statement), when they first show up in class.

[Alchemy]

I had the opposite experience once, teaching Freshman comp at NYU. I called a boy in for his first conference, and said, "I suppose you know you're a very gifted writer." He looked at me with this shocked expression and said, "The nuns always gave me C's in writing!"

LOL, was his writing really bad or did the nuns just dislike what he wrote about? My cousin went to a Catholic school and in creative writing every time he's write a sci-fi story he'd get a C, but every time he's write some religious tory, he's get an A. :roll:

[leahiniowa]

I suspect it had to do with his handwriting.

[Kaoru]

Nice! :)

I only had that kind of situation happen a couple of times, unfortunately. Oklahoma isn't a hot-bed of high academic standards in a lot of the small towns unfortunately. Makes me miss the Coast. I'm having to teach college freshmen stuff I learned as a high school freshman! Which isn't to say I don't get a lot of really good students. They just haven't been taught alot of things they should already have at least some kind of grasp of (like how to write a thesis statement), when they first show up in class.

I can vouch for that. :roll: In the public high school I attended, getting a 20 on your ACT was an act of God. The three and a half years I spent at Grant (Oklahoma City Public School) were the worst years of my life. I was bored out of my mind, and was actually getting lower grades than I should've..

Example:
I read the unabridged A Tale of Two Cities when I was ten. Senior year, we read that for our semester grade. I get a C in the class. Why? I finished the book too fast (finished it within a few days after checking the novel out).

So many students here are so apathetic once they finished high school--if they finish according to Oklahoma's educational standards. The few teachers that try to give us the education we deserve end up being threatened or fired. Textual resources are near unheard of. It's horrid. I transferred out during my senior year to a private homeschool, and by the public schools' standards, I was a drop-out.

[Keio]

Yes, pick your jaw off the floor, I'm about to complain about my high grades.

I got an A in english. 95% which is the highest this guy gives. Now... I think I am fully capable of getting a 95, but the fact is, this essay wasn't so great.

In his comments he gushed praise. "You should be an A.C.L.U. Lawyer".

This is college for petes sake. MAKE US WORK DAMMIT!

:roll:
DON"T EVER COMPLAIN ABOUT GOOD GRADES!!


Ever. It's just stupid.


But since I just got my report card....I think I'll brag.:D Oh! By the way 1s are great, 2s good, 3s need work.

Ok. PE (Physical Education) : A 1
English H (H= Honors) : A 2
History : A 2
Math H : A- 2
Art : A- 2
Science : A 1
Advanced Band : A 2
Spanish : A- 2

I recieved the Head of School award too. Now you don't see me complaining about that do you?:D

[Priscilla]

Fantastic, Keio! You should be proud of those grades! Hooray! :ok:

[Milo]

I recieved the Head of School award too. Now you don't see me complaining about that do you?:D Yeah but you earned 'em, didincha?